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Old 03-03-2015, 02:51 PM
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Frankly, I don't care what you 'believe' about the rate of those caught, or how many use it. Its banned and should treated accordingly. If its a constant issue like you suggest, then I guess I need to question putting one more red cent thru the windows.
I don't wish to think that's the case, and the hundreds of thousands of races in the time span, with 53 caught, does not indicate rampant use as you think there is. The numbers don't back up your belief. And how many are repeat offenders?
Or are we to assume that since some get caught, they're all using them?
Based on your assertion, that's one buzzer every 154 races. Is that enough to be considered 'common'? Where do you get your numbers? Mine are from that site...
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Old 03-03-2015, 03:03 PM
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Chapa still listed in top 10 jocks at SHRP meet,

Roman Chapa 7 5 1 1 71.43 100.00 $129,800
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:41 PM
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the racing commission can only suspend an individual for up to five years


last paragraph:
http://www.drf.com/news/chapa-suspen...xas-commission
Good to know tho that he most likely is done for good...i cannot imagine him getting reinstated.
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Old 03-03-2015, 05:32 PM
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This story was on the ABC nightly news at 6:30 last night. You know the media will have fun with this one. During the Derby Trail they will throw out questions like " I wonder how many Jockeys use these buzzers that don't get caught"?. Or, "could this be common practice on the race track"? You know its coming.
Boy, it took over a month. But the question finally came.
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Old 03-03-2015, 10:45 PM
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Frankly, I don't care what you 'believe' about the rate of those caught, or how many use it. Its banned and should treated accordingly. If its a constant issue like you suggest, then I guess I need to question putting one more red cent thru the windows.
I don't wish to think that's the case, and the hundreds of thousands of races in the time span, with 53 caught, does not indicate rampant use as you think there is. The numbers don't back up your belief. And how many are repeat offenders?
Or are we to assume that since some get caught, they're all using them?
Based on your assertion, that's one buzzer every 154 races. Is that enough to be considered 'common'? Where do you get your numbers? Mine are from that site...
I wasn't implying that they're all using them. At the majors tracks like Santa Anita and Belmont I don't think that too many jockeys use them. I think it happens occasionally but I don't think the use is rampant.

With regard to your assertion that "the numbers don't back up my belief" that only a very small percentage of people using them were caught, I don't know how you come to that conclusion. If investigators are not really taking any proactive measures to catch people, then how could anyone come to any conclusion other than only a small percentage have been caught?

I am going to give you an analogy. If a security guard at a concert attended by 10,000 people frisks 100 random attendees and finds that 5 of them have marijuana, what conclusion would you draw about how many people at that concert probably have marijuana on them? If they only checked 100 out of 10,000 and they caught a total of 5 people, would you assume that only 5 people at the concert had marijuana?
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:03 AM
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The photographer deserves an Eclipse Award.
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:28 AM
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The photographer deserves an Eclipse Award.



most likely Chapa would still be riding...and buzzing if it was not for the photo and the photographer reporting the sighting
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The photographer deserves an Eclipse Award.


when chapa saw it, he actually requested the photo be taken down--that it 'didn't look good'.
nope, sure doesn't.
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Anyone have a list of the 53 jockeys?

Hard to believe that 53 jockeys were caught in thoroughbred racing and got lengthy suspensions yet no one can name more than a handful?
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Old 03-05-2015, 09:10 PM
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Anyone have a list of the 53 jockeys?

Hard to believe that 53 jockeys were caught in thoroughbred racing and got lengthy suspensions yet no one can name more than a handful?
One guy gets caught and it makes national news.

I highly doubt the Grey Rag could name the jocks "caught."
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Old 03-05-2015, 09:40 PM
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Anyone have a list of the 53 jockeys?

Hard to believe that 53 jockeys were caught in thoroughbred racing and got lengthy suspensions yet no one can name more than a handful?
good point.
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maybe they could ask Gary Stevens what he handed to holy roller Pat Day after thunder gulch won the derby.
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maybe they could ask Gary Stevens what he handed to holy roller Pat Day after thunder gulch won the derby.
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Old 03-06-2015, 06:29 PM
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Fined $100k


"Chuck Trout, executive director of the Texas Racing Commission, used his authority under commission rule 309.67 to increase the fine against banned jockey Roman Chapa to $100,000 in connection a ruling earlier this week that handed out the maximum penalty – a five-year suspension and $25,000 fine – that stewards could apply for possession of a prohibited electrical device in a race."

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Being accused now of buzzing Quiet Acceleration in 2014 Richard King Stake as well.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/th...d-king-stakes/
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Old 04-01-2015, 07:25 PM
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Being accused now of buzzing Quiet Acceleration in 2014 Richard King Stake as well.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/th...d-king-stakes/
Seems they could look into every race he's ever ridden at this point. He's got no one to blame but himself if they did. He's a cheater, so now everything he has ever done or will do will be suspect.
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Ray Paulick reporting on Twitter that Chapa has received a jockey license at Arapahoe

Jockey Roman Chapa, suspended three times for use of illegal stimulating devices on horses (a nail in 1994, electric shocking devices in 2007 and 2015) was licensed and permitted to ride today at Arapahoe Park in Colorado. He served a five-year suspension on 2015 charge.

This guy has a rap sheet longer than my arm....he shouldn't be allowed to jockey anymore, excercise rider, hotwalker, I dont care but he is a animal abuser and a cheat, times over, the sport would be better off without him than with him....
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Just scored on Parolee, a 20-1 ml bet down to 8/5
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Just scored on Parolee, a 20-1 ml bet down to 8/5
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