Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Sports Bar & Grill
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-09-2013, 02:27 PM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default Aaron Sele

Got a Hall of Fame vote?

Good to see one of the voters at least has a sense of humor.

Bonds was a no-brainer Hall of Famer before he ever took steroids. I grew up a Cubs fan when I followed baseball for a few years, I hated Bonds with the Pirates, but he was incredible and obviously not a juicer at that time.

I stopped following baseball all together by the time he started pumping himself up to look like Terrell Owens and having the greatest offensive seasons in history with the Giants.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-09-2013, 03:03 PM
jms62's Avatar
jms62 jms62 is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 19,676
Default

The writers certainly made a statement. All time Home Run leader not enshrined in his first attempt missing by a wide margin.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-09-2013, 03:56 PM
hi_im_god's Avatar
hi_im_god hi_im_god is offline
Arlington Park
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,043
Default

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-09-2013, 04:04 PM
Danzig's Avatar
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,931
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hi_im_god View Post
he just started eating wheaties...i'm sure of it.
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-09-2013, 05:33 PM
steve steve is offline
Bowie
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 205
Default

were he any good the Bucs would have at least 1 World Series ring back in the 90's
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-09-2013, 05:42 PM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by steve View Post
were he any good the Bucs would have at least 1 World Series ring back in the 90's
They haven't had a single winning season since the very year he left.

It's baseball ... the value of one position player means little.

The most important player in baseball only appears once every five games when he's healthy. Once every four when the playoffs come around.

Bonds couldn't even win a ring when he was putting up insane seasons in San Fran.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-09-2013, 06:12 PM
Dahoss Dahoss is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,295
Default

How did Piazza not get in?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-09-2013, 06:24 PM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default

Probably a perception by some that he might have been involved with roids but never got caught ... combined with him being avg at best as a defensive catcher. Plus, they are tougher on guys the first few ballots.

Even though I watched very little baseball, he was a favorite player of mine when he was with the Mets.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-09-2013, 06:51 PM
MaTH716's Avatar
MaTH716 MaTH716 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 11,437
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Calzone Lord View Post
Probably a perception by some that he might have been involved with roids but never got caught ... combined with him being avg at best as a defensive catcher. Plus, they are tougher on guys the first few ballots.

Even though I watched very little baseball, he was a favorite player of mine when he was with the Mets.
I could be wrong, but I don't remember Piazza's name being linked with the Mitchell report. As far as I'm concerned they dropped the ball with Piazza, he deserved to get in on the first ballot.
__________________
Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-09-2013, 07:09 PM
hoovesupsideyourhead's Avatar
hoovesupsideyourhead hoovesupsideyourhead is offline
"The Kentucky Killing Machine"
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: florida
Posts: 16,277
Default

love to see a side by side of white sox sammy sosa and cubs sosa..
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-09-2013, 07:15 PM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahoss View Post
How did Piazza not get in?
Total bullsh*t. He's only the greatest offensive catcher in the history of the game.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-09-2013, 07:16 PM
DaTruth's Avatar
DaTruth DaTruth is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,969
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig View Post
he just started eating wheaties...i'm sure of it.
or maybe he had a really good ice machine.
__________________
Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-09-2013, 08:43 PM
Rudeboyelvis Rudeboyelvis is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,440
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaTruth View Post
or maybe he had a really good ice machine.
I had heard he was wearing the wrong sized shoes in Pittsburgh
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-09-2013, 08:47 PM
Dahoss Dahoss is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,295
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GPK View Post
Total bullsh*t. He's only the greatest offensive catcher in the history of the game.
Plus he made the mullet look cool. Not an easy feat.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-09-2013, 10:17 PM
Conrad Conrad is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,288
Default

I think the writers sent a message and no offensive players from the so called steroid era got in (or will get in) on their first try.

Biggio and his 3,000 hits didn't get in either, and with Maddox and Glavine eligible next year it could be a long wait for some guys.
I bet Frank Thomas doesn't get in next year in his first year of eligibility either.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-10-2013, 05:42 AM
Bigsmc's Avatar
Bigsmc Bigsmc is offline
Goodwood
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,577
Default

114 of the ballots, some with explanations.


http://bbwaa.com/13-hof-ballots/
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-10-2013, 07:29 AM
knickslions2's Avatar
knickslions2 knickslions2 is offline
Longchamps
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,442
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahoss View Post
How did Piazza not get in?
Travesty. Best offensive catcher ever and a fan favorite. He will get in next year.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-10-2013, 07:59 AM
jms62's Avatar
jms62 jms62 is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 19,676
Default

I think the Home run records should be vacated and returned to Maris and Hammering Hank. Am I alone in this thinking?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-10-2013, 09:28 AM
Alabama Stakes Alabama Stakes is offline
Havre de Grace
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: suffolk downs
Posts: 5,811
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahoss View Post
How did Piazza not get in?

2 reasons. Clemens whipping that bat at his head, and being a little light in the spikes. Next year.

Still no Luis Tiant ? what a farce
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-10-2013, 10:23 AM
Rudeboyelvis Rudeboyelvis is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,440
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes View Post
2 reasons. Clemens whipping that bat at his head, and being a little light in the spikes. Next year.

Still no Luis Tiant ? what a farce
This might just be your finest work ever. Well done.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.