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Old 05-19-2019, 11:10 AM
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was everlast going to catch war of will? it looked like he was actually gaining on war at the finish,, are my 90 something eyes playing tricks on me?
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Old 05-19-2019, 12:00 PM
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was everlast going to catch war of will? it looked like he was actually gaining on war at the finish,, are my 90 something eyes playing tricks on me?
No, he wasn't going to catch him. The only reason he was gaining on him was because there was an extremely fast pace and War of Will was within about 3 lengths of that hot pace. Everlast was literally 20 lengths behind, which was the perfect place for him to be. By the way, if they went a little further I think Owendale would have passed Everlast.

Anyway, Everlast benefited from a perfect pace set up. He didn't run nearly as well as War of Will, Owendale, or Warrior's Charge (who ran a great race). Warrior's Charge set that suicide pace and only lost by 3 lengths. Warrior's Charge ran a 20x better race than Everlast.

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Old 05-19-2019, 05:51 PM
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Despite the popular meme about jockey’s not knowing their whip from a hole in the ground , I think (at the Preakness level) they understand where the finish line is and ask the horse to go when it gives them the best chance to win at that point.

Back in the day, I used to fall in love with horses like Saarland who always seemed to be closing well. It rarely worked out for my bank account and I eventually learned to ignore horses with untroubled trips that looked like they just needed another 1/2 furlong.
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Old 05-20-2019, 10:00 AM
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Default rupert again ,,i dont get you

20 times better? romans horse down the stretch was behind owendale and caught him,, how is he 20 times better, shaking my head, weather you got 40 years experience as a owner or whatever,, keep adding to my post,, i laugh all the time,,, although, i can say, i dont get upset anymre,, your intitled to your opinion 20 times better,,, ok
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Old 05-20-2019, 10:02 AM
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Default excuse me rupert, i read your post wrong

you were talking about warriors charge,,,, i dont think he ran 20 times better,, but i do beleive warrior ran a fabulous race,, if javier clicked it 1 second slower to half, who knows,,, god day
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:18 PM
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My opinion on the Preakness is hardly controversial. If you asked any of the other handicappers on this board they would tell you the exact same thing that I told you. If this race was going to be run again in a month and it was going to be a 4 horse field between the top 4 finishers, this would be my morning line:

War of Will 1-1
Warrior's Charge 7-5
Owendale 6-1
Everlast 25-1

The only chance Everlast would have would be if War of Will and Warrior's Charge went head and head in :45 3/5, Owendale was sitting too close and Everlast dropped 15-20 lengths back. That would be Everlast's only chance. And if you ask any of the other handicappers on this board, I guarantee that they would tell you the same thing.
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:48 PM
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I think Everfast passed Owendale in the last jump. I wish I knew where to see the photo.
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Old 05-20-2019, 03:10 PM
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Everlast benefitted from a strong rail bias IMO. Owendale made the sweepy charge on the outside...ie, the bad part of the track that day. The races throughout the day back up this thought. I would take Owendale over Everlast moving forward.
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:56 PM
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of whos better,, i simply asked did it look like everlast was gaining on war of will @ the finish line? a simple yes or no,, but rupert has to be rupert
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Old 05-20-2019, 07:27 PM
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of whos better,, i simply asked did it look like everlast was gaining on war of will @ the finish line? a simple yes or no,, but rupert has to be rupert
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You asked if Everlast was going to catch War of Will. The answer is no. Should I have just said no, without elaborating? Was he gaining on him is a different question. He obviously gained on him from the 1/8th pole to the wire. At the 1/8th pole, he was around 3 1/2 lengths back. At the wire he was 1 1/4 lengths back. So, yes he was gaining on him. But no, he wasn't going to beat him.
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Old 05-21-2019, 05:35 PM
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If you had Everlast in the Preakness then as a Handicappers(this Forum or click)you made one hell of bet because pace or no pace Everlast did not figure in the standard handicapping parlance!
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