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Old 06-09-2021, 07:34 PM
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Old 06-10-2021, 05:11 PM
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Have to feel for the connections of Weyburn. Zero doubt in my mind the silly whip rule cost him a win there.

What a joke
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Old 06-13-2021, 06:02 PM
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Have to feel for the connections of Weyburn. Zero doubt in my mind the silly whip rule cost him a win there.

What a joke
The ride was horrendous; whoever that was took a page out of Kent Desormeaux's book.

The horse's main weapon is his speed (and his ability to carry it over a distance). That genius throttled the horse down entering the backstretch and spent the first half mile looking around for Mandaloun. Then, inexplicably, after dispensing with the frontrunner and establishing first run, he doesn't try and break the race open but rather sits and waits like a sitting duck around the far turn, all the while again looking around multiple times for Mandaloun.

I guess his genius strategy was to let Mandaloun catch up to him and needlessly float his own horse out to engage the heavy favorite in some sort of scripted Pay-Per-View matchup. If he had just kicked on from the get-go, might never had been headed, whip or not...
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Old 06-13-2021, 07:04 PM
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The ride was horrendous; whoever that was took a page out of Kent Desormeaux's book.

The horse's main weapon is his speed (and his ability to carry it over a distance). That genius throttled the horse down entering the backstretch and spent the first half mile looking around for Mandaloun. Then, inexplicably, after dispensing with the frontrunner and establishing first run, he doesn't try and break the race open but rather sits and waits like a sitting duck around the far turn, all the while again looking around multiple times for Mandaloun.

I guess his genius strategy was to let Mandaloun catch up to him and needlessly float his own horse out to engage the heavy favorite in some sort of scripted Pay-Per-View matchup. If he had just kicked on from the get-go, might never had been headed, whip or not...
I was there and bet Weyburn. He looked super in the paddock. The horse on the lead was coming out of sprints and I don't think they wanted to get into a duel with a no chance rat that was going to come back to them. Mandaloun was not tightened up that was his B race anyways the good stuff will be inserted for Haskel
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Old 06-13-2021, 07:19 PM
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I was there and bet Weyburn. He looked super in the paddock. The horse on the lead was coming out of sprints and I don't think they wanted to get into a duel with a no chance rat that was going to come back to them. Mandaloun was not tightened up that was his B race anyways the good stuff will be inserted for Haskel
Lugamo was not coming out of sprints (but yes, he's sprinted before).

The pace was slow or at least slower than $7K platers earlier on the card. Weyburn could have conceivably set the pace if he wanted. At the very least, the jock should have prompted the pace (especially since it was slow), rather than strangling his mount.

And not for nothing, the only time Mandaloun had to chase a quick pace (the LA Derby), he folded like a cheap suit.

Weyburn should have gunned, if not from the outset, at least at the 3/8s pole when he assumed command.

Maybe instead of banning the whip, they can ban the jockeys, and just use weighted saddles with slapper things on either side. The trainers can control the slappers remotely from the grandstand. They could run horses at equal "slaps" or handicap horses by giving more "slaps" to the lesser horses.
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