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Old 08-17-2012, 03:17 AM
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Arlington Park Race #3: Callaloo

Arlington Park Race #5: Direct Breeze

Arlington Park Race #7: Lemonade Kid

Arapahoe Park Race #2: Dixie's Lil Dandy and Unbridled Pollyann

Araphoe Park Race #4: Slip Away Darlin

Arapahoe Park Race #9: County Slip

Canterbury Park Race #5: Brave Little Bull

Charles Town Race #4: Banner Time

Charles Town Race #8: Reach For The Gold

Del Mar Race #4: Tiz Final

Ellis Park Race #2: D's Littlebit Wild

Evangeline Downs Race #3: Diamondsforjulia and High on the List

Evangline Race #5: Miss Juror

Evangline Race #10: Big W's La Tee

Finger Lakes Race #5: Patron's Emma K and First Dine

Fairmount Park Race #3: Hay Ring

Louisiana Downs Race #6: Twin City Thunder

Louisiana Downs Race #8: Main Stage

Remington Park Race #9: Oklahoma Traveler

Saratoga Race #1: Hookdonchurchpunch

Saratoga Race #11: Proud Siren

Suffolk Race #1: Bold Dream

Thistle Downs Race #7: Third Wish and Classic Reward

Woodbine Race #9: Cat Steps
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:18 AM
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That's an ambitious list for Saturday.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:24 AM
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Arlington Park: Race #1: Nuckser

Arlington Park: Race #6: Stage Tapper

Arapahoe Park: Race #6: Colorado High

Arapahoe Park: Race #9: Robyns Return

Canterbury Park: Race #1: Run Trevor Run

Canterbury Park: Race #5: Demi's No Trump

Charles Town Race #2: Reggae King

Charles Town Race #5: Ethlenes Merlot

Ellis Park Race #6: Bright White Sox

Hoosier Race #3: Whata Waki

Hastings Race #7: Secret Satin

Albuquerque Race #9: Amor de Mi Alma

Presque Isle Downs Race #7: Velvet Dancer

Remington Park Race #3: Ruby Pauline & Lady Teacup

Saratoga Race #5: Licentious Eyes

Saratoga Race #8: Saint Anna Carina

Thistle Downs Race #8: L. G. Twins

Woodbine Race #2: Twilight Shadow
Two of them scratched -- the other 17 all got buried. To this point, no horses has yet to finish 1-2-3 ... and no Superfecta was offered in the two races where the bums manage to cluck in to a 4th place finish.

90 down, only 910 more to go.
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:26 AM
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Canterbury Park: Race #1: Sammy Ray

Canterbury Park: Race #8: Orfan Ole

Del Mar Race #4: Undaunted Rally

Ellis Park Race #3: Go for Four Buddy

Ellis Park Race #6: Jennifer Ashton (Turf Only)

Emerald Downs Race #8: Jump Up and Kissme

Emerald Downs Race #9: Sharp Focus

Golden Gate: Race #5: Tiz Savy

Louisiana Downs Race #7: Wiggly

River Downs Race #8: Jaf

Saratoga Race #2: Tootsie's Girl

Saratoga Race #3: Harry Consolidator

Saratoga Race #7: Sucre and Rachini

Woodbine Race #2: Osculator

Woodbine Race #9: Real Hero
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:05 PM
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Today's nags managed to attract $6,131 in failed win wagers, which brings the running total up to $59,625.

Ranger, you're slipping on the total! Will this Saturday top last Saturday's?

Over a hundred now.

It feels like 5,000 -- this is a grind!
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:11 PM
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just curious how many of your pics have been in top 3
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sorry just saw answer above
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Ranger, you're slipping on the total! Will this Saturday top last Saturday's?

Over a hundred now.

It feels like 5,000 -- this is a grind!
I was out all night last night so I was unable to do the total for Friday, but from what I saw from the afternoon I estimate the total for Friday to be at least $9,000, so I will use that number as the total for Friday.

Saturday, however, was a record day for the nags, as they managed a combined $29,646 in losses, bringing the new total to $98,271. Hookdonchurchpunch in the first at the spa was only 18-1 and was responsible for $9,147 just by herself. So far the record low was on Friday at Arapahoe, Robyns Return drew only $21 in win bets.

It's a grind keeping up with you, so I can only imagine how it is for you, but I will persevere through the end, it is amazing to get this far and not have even one horse be respoonsible for any winning wager of any kind so far.
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Old 08-19-2012, 05:12 AM
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Thanks for the good record keeping Ranger.

I was flirting with taking Sea Island in the Alabama Stakes -- who was 13/1 in a race with over $1 million in the WPS pool -- but the unique distance of 10fs and the likelihood of a very fast pace was just enough to discourage me.

112 down, only 888 more to go.
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:28 AM
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Bums for Monday:

Finger Lakes Race #3: Flag Handler

Finger Lakes Race #9: Sea Slice

Mountaineer Park Race #4: Trust in Frank

Parx Race #5: Wild And Away

Parx Race #6: Marco Be Good

Parx Race #10: Brave Samson

Saratoga Race #1: Praetorian Guard and Burned Bridges

Saratoga Race #3: Thunderville

Suffolk Race #1: Castiel
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Old 08-19-2012, 08:26 PM
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Canterbury Park: Race #1: Sammy Ray

Canterbury Park: Race #8: Orfan Ole

Del Mar Race #4: Undaunted Rally

Ellis Park Race #3: Go for Four Buddy

Ellis Park Race #6: Jennifer Ashton (Turf Only)

Emerald Downs Race #8: Jump Up and Kissme

Emerald Downs Race #9: Sharp Focus

Golden Gate: Race #5: Tiz Savy

Louisiana Downs Race #7: Wiggly

River Downs Race #8: Jaf

Saratoga Race #2: Tootsie's Girl

Saratoga Race #3: Harry Consolidator

Saratoga Race #7: Sucre and Rachini

Woodbine Race #2: Osculator

Woodbine Race #9: Real Hero
12 of them ran -- and all 12 of them got buried. One of them, even finished 5th in a field of 5.


124 down, only 876 more to go.
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:00 AM
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This was really a banner weekend for the bums, as Sunday alone they accounted for $22,006 in failed win wagers, bringing the grand total to $120,277. That's enough to buy a decent house in large portions of the country. Just this weekend $51,652 was wasted, or enough to buy a new Mercedes.

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Old 08-20-2012, 09:46 AM
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This is a really fascinating and entertaining thread. But, Doug--my main question is how can you follow so many tracks at one time and still have conviction in your opinions?

Your ability to do that alone makes you one of the greatest handicappers I know.

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Old 08-20-2012, 11:07 AM
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This is a really fascinating and entertaining thread. But, Doug--my main question is how can you follow so many tracks at one time and still have conviction in your opinions?

Your ability to do that alone makes you one of the greatest handicappers I know.
I've been working with CJ (cmorioles) the last few months in making performance figures for horses with him. Maybe I'm a little biased, but the CJ Performance figure and his pace figures are way better than Beyers, TG, Ragozin, and they aren't publicly available either.

Between the two of us, we make figures for every track in the country, so at a glance I can pull up every race in the country and look for spots where real handicaping appears worthwhile.

The rest is obviously all handicapping...and I still do have a trip note collection of future bet backs that has always been my bread and butter.

For this task, I'm simply using the CJ figures -- finding the least competitive horses -- and studying the past performances to make sure there are no angles I can see that should give a horse a chance to improve and win.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:20 AM
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What happened to those great videos you were doing?
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:48 AM
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What happened to those great videos you were doing?
I just couldn't find the time to keep them up.

The one trip handicapping video I did where I took one-horse from each circuit as a bet-back for next time -- 3 of the 7 in the video won their next start (one of them by 8+ lengths at 30/1 odds) and even a few of the ones who didn't win their next start improved by a lot.

That's really my strongest advantage as a handicapper -- is to isolate the right kind of race to watch, watch it, and find the right horse to play back next time.
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:15 PM
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Finger Lakes Race #5: Dear Marylou

Hoosier Race #1: Stormin Sherman

Hoosier Race #2: My Friend Ann

Hoosier Race #3: Da Suga Man

Hoosier Race #5: Rapid Survivor

Presque Isle Downs Race #6: Mighty Missy

Suffolk Race #5: Speed Diva

Suffolk Race #7: Sociano's Legacy
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:29 PM
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Finger Lakes Race #3: Flag Handler

Finger Lakes Race #9: Sea Slice

Mountaineer Park Race #4: Trust in Frank

Parx Race #5: Wild And Away

Parx Race #6: Marco Be Good

Parx Race #10: Brave Samson

Saratoga Race #1: Praetorian Guard and Burned Bridges

Saratoga Race #3: Thunderville

Suffolk Race #1: Castiel
All 10 of them went down in defeat.

One of them was dead last throughout at Finger Lakes at just 16/1 odds. Another one was buried at Saratoga at 25/1.

However, Trust In Frank finished 2nd (beaten about 10 lengths) at Mountaineer Park...he broke the streak of 133 straight to finish out of the top 3. Be sure to bet against everything he beat in that race, next time.

Current record stands at 134 starts, 0 wins, 1 second, 0 thirds, 2 fourths.

134 down, only 866 more to go.
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I just couldn't find the time to keep them up.

The one trip handicapping video I did where I took one-horse from each circuit as a bet-back for next time -- 3 of the 7 in the video won their next start (one of them by 8+ lengths at 30/1 odds) and even a few of the ones who didn't win their next start improved by a lot.

That's really my strongest advantage as a handicapper -- is to isolate the right kind of race to watch, watch it, and find the right horse to play back next time.
It was really good stuff.

Paul
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Old 08-21-2012, 04:06 AM
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All 10 of them went down in defeat.

One of them was dead last throughout at Finger Lakes at just 16/1 odds. Another one was buried at Saratoga at 25/1.

However, Trust In Frank finished 2nd (beaten about 10 lengths) at Mountaineer Park...he broke the streak of 133 straight to finish out of the top 3. Be sure to bet against everything he beat in that race, next time.

Current record stands at 134 starts, 0 wins, 1 second, 0 thirds, 2 fourths.

134 down, only 866 more to go.
Today's bums attracted approximately $11,407 to win on them, bringing the total up to $131,884. Totals are approximate due to not having access to detailed pool info for Parx, amounts are estimated based on odds and pool size.

Today also set a record for longest off odds of any of the bums, as Brave Samson in the 10th at Parx went off at 195-1. He was never better than 11th at any call and was beaten 22 lengths.
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