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Old 05-19-2018, 10:19 AM
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Old 05-19-2018, 10:11 PM
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Apparently, Chad Brown didn’t like the ride on Good Magic. Funny, because if I would have bet on GM to win, I would have been just fine with it.
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Old 05-19-2018, 10:13 PM
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Apparently, Chad Brown didn’t like the ride on Good Magic. Funny, because if I would have bet on GM to win, I would have been just fine with it.
Agree completely
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Old 05-20-2018, 12:31 AM
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Horse Win Place Show
1st:
7
Justify $2.80 $2.80 $2.60

2nd:
8
Bravazo $7.60 $4.80

3rd:
6
Tenfold $6.80

4th:
5
Good Magic

5th:
2
Lone Sailor

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Win Place Show
$13,226,987 $3,743,073 $3,620,589 ...went from KD $62,336,448 to PKS $20,590,659...significant drop..[/i][/b]

$2.00 EXACTA 7-8 $27.40
$1.00 TRIFECTA 7-8-6 $148.30
$1.00 SUPERFECTA 7-8-6-5 $372.50
$1.00 SUPERFECTA 7-8-6-5 $372.50
$2.00 SUPERHIGHFIVE 7-8-6-5-2 $2,740.40
$2.00 DAILY DOUBLE 8/7 $4.60
$1.00 PICK 3 3 OF 3 5,6,7,8,10,12,14/1,3,4,7,8,9/7 $7.50
$1.00 PICK 4 4 OF 4 5/5,6,7,8,10,12,14/1,3,4,7,8,9/7 $43.80
$1.00 PICK 5 5 OF 5 3/5/5,6,7,8,10,12,14/1,3,4,7,8,9/7 $169.70
- PICK 6 CarryOver $216,236.59
$1.00 PICK 6 6 OF 6 5/3/5/5,6,7,8,10,12,14/1,3,4,7,8,9/7 $205.20
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:32 AM
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not one horse paid more than $8.00 to win, the entire day.

unfortunately i kept thinking that trend would be bucked, ALL DAY LONG


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Old 05-21-2018, 09:44 AM
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Apparently, Chad Brown didn’t like the ride on Good Magic. Funny, because if I would have bet on GM to win, I would have been just fine with it.

Really?

I wouldn't have been.
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:48 AM
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Really?

I wouldn't have been.
Well he wasn't going to win with any other trip (see Derby), so kudos for trying something different and making a race out of it instead of a simple merry-go-round.
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:49 AM
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I thought preakness day was okay.
i hit the pick3. pick4, and the super...bet 50 left with 130...
turned 1 to 5 into 8 to 5..

what type of ride could you give a colt on a day like that.
if the colt decides to run off angry about his situation, not a lot you can do.

pleased, if appears, there were no broken bones in that mess.
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Old 05-21-2018, 12:02 PM
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Well he wasn't going to win with any other trip (see Derby), so kudos for trying something different and making a race out of it instead of a simple merry-go-round.
Your record remains intact.
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Well he wasn't going to win with any other trip (see Derby), so kudos for trying something different and making a race out of it instead of a simple merry-go-round.
I agree with everything that you just said. I thought Jose did a great job Saturday. I couldn't understand why Chad would be mad at the trip and went back and read some of the quotes and now I think I understand.

It seems like Chad thought their best chance to win the race was if Justify regressed. Have Good Magic run his race no matter how it set up and he was in such good shape that he would have a chance to win if Justify took a step back. Instead Jose called an audible and did the opposite of what Chad wanted. Usually this strategy is applauded in other races, in this case I guess Chad feels like Jose burned his horse up and didn't hit the board while Justify still ended up winning. If Jose rides the race Chad wants, Good Magic is taking his best shot at Justify in the stretch. He most likely runs second, but with Chad's thinking if Justify did regress, maybe Good Magic gets him on the wire.

I don't know if Im correct or not, but I initially didnt think of it like this.
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Old 05-21-2018, 12:34 PM
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Really?

I wouldn't have been.
I didn't love it; I just don't think he could have done that much else. Good Magic broke really well and it looked like Smith and Justify never wanted to clear. I guess Jose could have wrangled the horse back some, but then that brings in the possibility of being stuck wide and or behind another horse or two, which didn't seem to be the place to be on Saturday. I think Quip not showing up changed some plans pretty quickly as well.

Do I think the ride cost him 2nd though? Absolutely...and that's where I needed him to finish.

I'd definitely love to hear others' thoughts though.
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Old 05-21-2018, 12:39 PM
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I didn't love it; I just don't think he could have done that much else. Good Magic broke really well and it looked like Smith and Justify never wanted to clear. I guess Jose could have wrangled the horse back some, but then that brings in the possibility of being stuck wide and or behind another horse or two, which didn't seem to be the place to be on Saturday. I think Quip not showing up changed some plans pretty quickly as well.

Do I think the ride cost him 2nd though? Absolutely...and that's where I needed him to finish.

I'd definitely love to hear others' thoughts though.


The only thing he feasibly could have done was stayed out in the five or six path and floated Justify to the turn forcing Mike to have to make a decision, which in all likelihood would have meant using Justify to clear and cut over, and then Good Magic would have been stalking him....and very possibly would have won.

No sane person would suggest that Good Magic is better than Justify, but Saturday was the day to possibly beat him, and with a different scenario, Good Magic may well have done that. As it was, if Diamond Luck hadn't gotten in Tenfold's way, he might have tripped out into the victory.

Justify won on Saturday despite not running nearly his best race, which of course is a tribute to him, and the true mark of a very good race horse. Having said that, there were a couple of scenarios where he would have lost.
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Old 05-21-2018, 01:49 PM
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The only thing he feasibly could have done was stayed out in the five or six path and floated Justify to the turn forcing Mike to have to make a decision, which in all likelihood would have meant using Justify to clear and cut over, and then Good Magic would have been stalking him....and very possibly would have won.
Baffert brought exactly this up today on ATR and added it’s why Smith moved for the lead when he did.
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You notice all the yawning ? It takes a lot of energy to be that condescending on a daily basis. A real 24 karat ...-....
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There wasn't anything wrong with the Jose ride on GM.
If he doesn't go with Justify early,who does ?
And then what do you have ?
The best 3yo since Pharoah loose...……..making an uncontested lead on a surface he loves ?
At least GM had a small chance of winning pushing Justify early.
If he doesn't engage him hard from the jump,he has no chance.

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Good Magic's race positions were 2,2,2,2,4 ....lost by a length. Being on the rail with justify with you every step, I would say he ran a damn good race.

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What do we make of Bravazo’s finish in here? Seemed done around the far turn. Dropped back to 5th, 7 lengths back at the top of the stretch and finished just a 1/2 length back at the wire.
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What do we make of Bravazo’s finish in here? Seemed done around the far turn. Dropped back to 5th, 7 lengths back at the top of the stretch and finished just a 1/2 length back at the wire.
Could anyone actually tell where he really was top of the stretch? Seven lengths seems unlikely.

Regardless, Bravazo ran OK, but was fourth best, and benefitted from Good Magic's taxing trip dueling inside and Tenfold moving too soon.
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