Breeders Cup Analysis

[hockey2315]

Yup. . . It's the best. Lahaleeb, Spirit One, Debussy, Vale of York, Winchester, Raven's Pass, Conduit the first time, Red Rocks. . . the list goes on.

[Gate Dancer]

I'm not trying to be a 'shill' here but what you're doing is basically what Jim Mazur and the folks at Progressive Handicapping do on a regular basis for their Breeders Cup products. I have purchased some of the info about every 4 years to see what the common factors are that identify which horses have the characteristics to run big in each of the races. While each year and race stand on their own, it is interesting to see the common thread that may help you catch a price or two. Usually you only need to hit one race to help make a profit for the weekend. Obviously they don't have as much 'history' on some of the newer races but they are building trends on those too.

Website is www.proghandicap.com if you're interested.

[miraja2]

Trying to identify any "trends" or "angles" seems completely futile to me, especially given that the event isn't even held at the same location each year.
When I'm handicapping a bunch of races held at CD in 2010, I'm not particularly interested in what happened at Gulfstream in 1992, or Lone Star Park in 2004, etc. I don't see how any information from those sources could be the least bit useful. I just handicap the BC the exact same way I would any other day, using the exact same approach.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Trying to identify any "trends" or "angles" seems completely futile to me, especially given that the event isn't even held at the same location each year.
When I'm handicapping a bunch of races held at CD in 2010, I'm not particularly interested in what happened at Gulfstream in 1992, or Lone Star Park in 2004, etc. I don't see how any information from those sources could be the least bit useful. I just handicap the BC the exact same way I would any other day, using the exact same approach.

Not to mention the horses are campaigned differently...it's like the people who insist that a horse can't win the Derby 5 weeks out.

[smuthg]

not to get totally off the subject at hand, but my recollection is that Brisnet has in previous years put together a set of advanced PPs for likely Breeders' Cup contenders (there is generally a link to the PPs) on some of the futures websites... I haven't been able to locate them this year; has anyone seen them?

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by smuthg

not to get totally off the subject at hand, but my recollection is that Brisnet has in previous years put together a set of advanced PPs for likely Breeders' Cup contenders (there is generally a link to the PPs) on some of the futures websites... I haven't been able to locate them this year; has anyone seen them?

I guess I could start by looking on the Brisnet website...

[clyde]

Well ask a stupid question and look what happens.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Gate Dancer

I'm not trying to be a 'shill' here but what you're doing is basically what Jim Mazur and the folks at Progressive Handicapping do on a regular basis for their Breeders Cup products. I have purchased some of the info about every 4 years to see what the common factors are that identify which horses have the characteristics to run big in each of the races. While each year and race stand on their own, it is interesting to see the common thread that may help you catch a price or two. Usually you only need to hit one race to help make a profit for the weekend. Obviously they don't have as much 'history' on some of the newer races but they are building trends on those too.

Website is www.proghandicap.com if you're interested.

Their product is very useful for Multi race players. P3 is a sweet spot and ever year you have a couple paying 4 figures..