Adagio claims?

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It also suggests Rick Dutrow, who's pretty sharp, isn't particularly aware of this.

I'm sure you've seen this move by Dutrow more than a few times over the years in New York...and it's probably safe to say most of the people who filled out a claim slip didn't really get any type of bargain.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

I'm sure you've seen this move by Dutrow more than a few times over the years in New York...and it's probably safe to say most of the people who filled out a claim slip didn't really get any type of bargain.

Sometimes yes and sometime no. Wasn't Digger claimed from Dutrow?

Successful claiming trainers are good because they run horses where they belong and they also take advantage of the fact that often people are afraid to claim from them ( and sometimes rightfully so ) and can thus run horses cheaper than, theoretically, they should...and still keep the horse. It's convenient for people to say " oh, that guy cheats, don't claim from him " but it's a lot more complicated than that. Dutrow has been accused of a lot of things....but I have never heard anyone smart say he isn't a very good trainer.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Sometimes yes and sometime no. Wasn't Digger claimed from Dutrow?

Successful claiming trainers are good because they run horses where they belong and they also take advantage of the fact that often people are afraid to claim from them ( and sometimes rightfully so ) and can thus run horses cheaper than, theoretically, they should...and still keep the horse. It's convenient for people to say " oh, that guy cheats, don't claim from him " but it's a lot more complicated than that. Dutrow has been accused of a lot of things....but I have never heard anyone smart say he isn't a very good trainer.

You missed a thread on here....

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Sometimes yes and sometime no. Wasn't Digger claimed from Dutrow?

Successful claiming trainers are good because they run horses where they belong and they also take advantage of the fact that often people are afraid to claim from them ( and sometimes rightfully so ) and can thus run horses cheaper than, theoretically, they should...and still keep the horse. It's convenient for people to say " oh, that guy cheats, don't claim from him " but it's a lot more complicated than that. Dutrow has been accused of a lot of things....but I have never heard anyone smart say he isn't a very good trainer.

Yes... and I don't remember for sure but I think it was for about $30k.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Sometimes yes and sometime no. Wasn't Digger claimed from Dutrow?

Successful claiming trainers are good because they run horses where they belong and they also take advantage of the fact that often people are afraid to claim from them ( and sometimes rightfully so ) and can thus run horses cheaper than, theoretically, they should...and still keep the horse. It's convenient for people to say " oh, that guy cheats, don't claim from him " but it's a lot more complicated than that. Dutrow has been accused of a lot of things....but I have never heard anyone smart say he isn't a very good trainer.

Makes sense. Yeah I forgot about Digger being taken from Dutrow...so as with most anything there are no absolutes...just have to weigh the risk vs reward and do your homework.