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Old 03-15-2010, 12:20 AM
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Exactly right.
What is the big deal about her getting beat yesterday? It isn't like she ran horribly. I admit I don't know squat about training a horse, but I didn't see a thing from that race yesterday that made me think she shouldn't run at OP.

she is short and would still be short for the next one

zenyatta was supposed to retire but continued to work regularly schedule breezes since the classic and had missed no time in training over the winter

suppose you have two human runners and one works out from oct till present and the other starts 37 days ago , don't you think think that the one who has not missed a beat since oct is in better shape than the once who just started training 37 days ago? horses are not machines , they are a lot like humans in many ways
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:46 AM
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she is short and would still be short for the next one
Based on?
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Old 03-15-2010, 01:32 AM
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What do you make of Steve Asmussen stating that Rachel Alexandra wasn't handling his "accelerated" training program the way he had hoped? He also seemed satisfied yet unimpressed with the 6f work in company a couple of weeks ago.

Does the contention that a decent (if disappointing) comeback race will help a horse "move forward" somehow negate all the lackluster training leading up to it?
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Old 03-15-2010, 02:11 AM
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What do you make of Steve Asmussen stating that Rachel Alexandra wasn't handling his "accelerated" training program the way he had hoped? He also seemed satisfied yet unimpressed with the 6f work in company a couple of weeks ago.

Does the contention that a decent (if disappointing) comeback race will help a horse "move forward" somehow negate all the lackluster training leading up to it?
O lets not forget the beyer, she ran lights out over Zen. RIGHT! She is toast now. Retirement soon!!!!
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Old 03-15-2010, 04:54 PM
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Old 03-15-2010, 05:00 PM
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So the people that are giving you info from Saratoga have a crystal ball that tells them that she would be short a month from now after having had a race and probably three more works under her belt?
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Old 03-15-2010, 05:07 PM
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So the people that are giving you info from Saratoga have a crystal ball that tells them that she would be short a month from now after having had a race and probably three more works under her belt?

chuck she just started working on jan 27 , zenyatta hasn't missed a beat since oct

ra has been out since when sept

so from sept tp jan she did nothing - correct

1st work on jan 27 , zenyatta didn't miss a beat

they both ran yesterday and the AB is when 3 weeks - how could she possible be ready to face Z that amount of time? how could she be ready for a peak effort ?
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Old 03-15-2010, 05:22 PM
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I feel bad for the poor folks who can't collect $100,000 now just for putting their horse in the gate.
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Old 03-15-2010, 05:36 PM
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chuck she just started working on jan 27 , zenyatta hasn't missed a beat since oct

ra has been out since when sept

so from sept tp jan she did nothing - correct

1st work on jan 27 , zenyatta didn't miss a beat

they both ran yesterday and the AB is when 3 weeks - how could she possible be ready to face Z that amount of time? how could she be ready for a peak effort ?
So Assmussen rushed the horse to get ready for last Sat's race when he knew she couldnt be ready on April 9th anyway?

This is bs logic especially when you know that she isnt running so there is no chance that you can be proven wrong.

Horses used to prep in sprint races all the time before stretching out. I guess none of them were ready either.
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Old 03-15-2010, 05:44 PM
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So Assmussen rushed the horse to get ready for last Sat's race when he knew she couldnt be ready on April 9th anyway?

This is bs logic especially when you know that she isnt running so there is no chance that you can be proven wrong.

Horses used to prep in sprint races all the time before stretching out. I guess none of them were ready either.

let's say you were the trainer chuck and mr jackson came to you and wanted you to make the April 9th race against Z. would you be able to get her ready to face Z in that amount of time ?

the facts are RA off since sept , works start jan 27 , Zenyatta retired but not missing a beat in training for some odd reason since the BC - is there any possible way that RA could be at 100 % for this race on april 9th , we all know Z is and will be at 100% , but could rachel be there? is it really fair for RA to face Z on april 9th given the fact that 1 horse has not missed a beat since oct and the other one had a 5 mth layoff and will have about 2 1/2 months of acclerated training? if the shoe was on the other foot would sheirffs really run Z against RA?
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