Help John McCain with his retirement

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I can't stand John McCain. He is trying to get a bill passed that would give the FDA control over vitamins and herbs. As of right now, we are free to go into any health-food store or even a greocery store and buy any vitamins that we want. If this bill passes, the FDA may start requiring prescriptions for vitamins. The FDA is in bed with the big drug companies. The big drug companies hate the fact that many people are using herbs and vitamins instead of prescription drugs. The big drug companies would love it if people were not allowed to buy herbs any more.

Anyway, here is an article about McCain's plan that would give the FDA the power to regulate vitamins, herbs, and supplements.

I think this is absolutely outrageous. I already sent e-mails to both of my senators.

http://www.jbs.org/health-care-freed...egulatory-bill

this is ridiculous.

do you need a presciption to buy tylenol? cosmetics? tobacco?

guess what? all regulated by the fda.

the issue here is that the supplement industry lobby doesn't want anyone doing quality control tests on their product.

as much as you like your supplements now, wouldn't you feel better knowing they aren't laced with rat turds? or that a product labeled as 100mg dosage is actually 100 mg and not sometimes 60mg and sometimes 200mg?

the problem for the supplement industry is they know they have some bad players. and they want to make sure you don't find that out.

i take fish oil, a potasium supplement, a plant sterol, and a multi-vitamen everyday. I have nothing against nutritional supplements.

but i'm looking forward to the day i don't have to wonder how much i'm actually getting and what else i'm taking with each one that i don't know about.

good bless john mccain for asking that your vitamen be at least as pure as your chemical food additive.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

this is ridiculous.

do you need a presciption to buy tylenol? cosmetics? tobacco?

guess what? all regulated by the fda.

the issue here is that the supplement industry lobby doesn't want anyone doing quality control tests on their product.

as much as you like your supplements now, wouldn't you feel better knowing they aren't laced with rat turds? or that a product labeled as 100mg dosage is actually 100 mg and not sometimes 60mg and sometimes 200mg?

the problem for the supplement industry is they know they have some bad players. and they want to make sure you don't find that out.

i take fish oil, a potasium supplement, a plant sterol, and a multi-vitamen everyday. I have nothing against nutritional supplements.

but i'm looking forward to the day i don't have to wonder how much i'm actually getting and what else i'm taking with each one that i don't know about.

good bless john mccain for asking that your vitamen be at least as pure as your chemical food additive.

My understanding is that there are already safeguards in place to deal with supplement companies that are mislabeling their products.

I would be the first guy to want some type of oversight to make sure that products do in fact contain the ingredients that are on the label. I think we are all in favor of that. But it sounds to me like this bill goes way too far. I don't want the FDA telling me what supplements or herbs I'm allowed to buy.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

My understanding is that there are already safeguards in place to deal with supplement companies that are mislabeling their products.

I would be the first guy to want some type of oversight to make sure that products do in fact contain the ingredients that are on the label. I think we are all in favor of that. But it sounds to me like this bill goes way too far. I don't want the FDA telling me what supplements or herbs I'm allowed to buy.

goes way too far how? by making supplement manufacturer's adhere to the same labeling and quality standards that already exist for other consumable goods?

how is that a radical idea?

there is no sensible argument against this. which is why you see nonsense like "presciptions will be required for vitamens" thrown out instead.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

goes way too far how? by making supplement manufacturer's adhere to the same labeling and quality standards that already exist for other consumable goods?

how is that a radical idea?

there is no sensible argument against this. which is why you see nonsense like "presciptions will be required for vitamens" thrown out instead.

If all this bill will do is make supplement manufacturers adhere to the same labeling and quality standards that already exist for other consumable goods, then I have no problem with that. But from my understanding, this bill goes way further than that.

Are you saying that this bill would not give the FDA the power to pull certain herbs off the market? Let's say that the FDA decides that Yin Chiao has not been proven as an effective tool against colds and flu's in their opinion. I think they would be able to pull Yin Chiao off the market, not based on quality control, but based on the FDA's opinion of the herbs' effectiveness. I am not favor of giving the FDA that type of power. I think I can do my own research on-line and decide whether I want to take Yin Chiao or not.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If all this bill will do is make supplement manufacturers adhere to the same labeling and quality standards that already exist for other consumable goods, then I have no problem with that. But from my understanding, this bill goes way further than that.

Are you saying that this bill would not give the FDA the power to pull certain herbs off the market? Let's say that the FDA decides that Yin Chiao has not been proven as an effective tool against colds and flu's in their opinion. I think they would be able to pull Yin Chiao off the market, not based on quality control, but based on the FDA's opinion of the herbs' effectiveness. I am not favor of giving the FDA that type of power. I think I can do my own research on-line and decide whether I want to take Yin Chiao or not.

if the manufacturer labels it as a cold remedy and it's proven to have no efficacy, it would probably be pulled for mislabelling.

on the other hand if the manufacturer labels it as "yin chiao" and makes no other claim, then all they have to do is prove it's yin chiao.

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