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Old 10-18-2009, 08:13 PM
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Today, I believe in a Higher Power. A "power" that is out there that is greater then me. I see and feel it at different times. Some examples -

Driving to, from and the time spent in Saratoga with my Grandmother looking at the beauty Mother Nature provides us lucky enough to see in the state of New York

The occasional occurence when something happens in day to day life that makes you feel better about being a person lucky enough to be here today

The ocean on a beautiful evening or morning with the sun setting or rising

A moment in time when all feels right, like when you are with family and friends around the holidays or otherwise. You get that "warm fuzzy feeling"

I could go on and on. I look for and need this Higher Power all the time. Without this, today, I would be lost. When I don't communicate, when I loose touch with my Higher Power, I no longer am the person I should be. I don't do the next right thing. Funny thing is, I don't know who or what this Higher Power is. Nor do I care. Today.

Cause I know it's there. With time, maybe it will come clear.
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Old 10-18-2009, 09:33 PM
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I'm along the same line of thinking as GPK and Spyder.

I consider myself spiritual, but not religious. I do have a relationship with God, and it is my relationship. It took me a long time and lots of soul-searching to get to this point, but I now feel at peace and have made the correct decision.
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:57 PM
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I'm along the same line of thinking as GPK and Spyder.

I consider myself spiritual, but not religious. I do have a relationship with God, and it is my relationship. It took me a long time and lots of soul-searching to get to this point, but I now feel at peace and have made the correct decision.

Ditto.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:54 PM
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I am, Was @ a Hell's Angels Concert & was handed a bong ,next thing ya know i was in hell & burning up a man comes past & gives me a drink of cold water, Snap im back in reality im lying by a tent ( all weekend concert )it's 47 degrees outside ( friggin hot in farinheight) & i survived ,Dont know if its true or not & i dont do drugs anymore ;-),but man somethin saved me that day :-).
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:04 PM
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I am, Was @ a Hell's Angels Concert & was handed a bong ,next thing ya know i was in hell & burning up a man comes past & gives me a drink of cold water, Snap im back in reality im lying by a tent ( all weekend concert )it's 47 degrees outside ( friggin hot in farinheight) & i survived ,Dont know if its true or not & i dont do drugs anymore ;-),but man somethin saved me that day :-).

thats because you are supposed to put the cold water in the bong first silly! LOL
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:13 PM
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Question.......

Anyone out there watch the birth of their own child, and not believe in God?
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:22 PM
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Question.......

Anyone out there watch the birth of their own child, and not believe in God?
Better yet, can anyone watch that and believe a higher being could actually be responsible?

No sarcasm intended.

Why does something special always have to be attributed to a higher being?

Likewise, when something horrific takes place, blame is never dished out to the same higher being that gets credit for everything wonderful.
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Old 10-21-2009, 03:23 PM
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Question.......

Anyone out there watch the birth of their own child, and not believe in God?
Yes, me.

And I'll add that my son is the greatest thing in my world. (just edging out my wife--in case she's reading over my shoulder.)

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Old 10-18-2009, 11:29 PM
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Today, I believe in a Higher Power. A "power" that is out there that is greater then me. I see and feel it at different times. Some examples -

Driving to, from and the time spent in Saratoga with my Grandmother looking at the beauty Mother Nature provides us lucky enough to see in the state of New York

The occasional occurence when something happens in day to day life that makes you feel better about being a person lucky enough to be here today

The ocean on a beautiful evening or morning with the sun setting or rising

A moment in time when all feels right, like when you are with family and friends around the holidays or otherwise. You get that "warm fuzzy feeling"

I could go on and on. I look for and need this Higher Power all the time. Without this, today, I would be lost. When I don't communicate, when I loose touch with my Higher Power, I no longer am the person I should be. I don't do the next right thing. Funny thing is, I don't know who or what this Higher Power is. Nor do I care. Today.

Cause I know it's there. With time, maybe it will come clear.
the sort of transcendent experience you're describing is also served without the side order of "god", curt.

i feel it at times. it's an amazing universe we share.
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Old 10-18-2009, 11:52 PM
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Neurotransmitters are a wonderful thing.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:28 AM
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the sort of transcendent experience you're describing is also served without the side order of "god", curt.

i feel it at times. it's an amazing universe we share.

...The fool has said in his heart "There is no God"--the Bible
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:13 AM
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...The fool has said in his heart "There is no God"--the Bible
I guess since the Bible says there is a god, there must be!

I guess I'll be going to Church every Sunday now.

Wait, I'm Jewish. Nix that, I'll be going to Temple every Friday and Saturday.

Wait, there are a lot more followers of Islam than of Abraham. Perhaps I'll look East or something every morning.

Wait, what about the Hindus. I better stop eating beef!

I guess I'll just become a member of all three godzillion religions we have on this Earth, to cover all my possible god angles!

I just hope the first aliens that contact us don't have their own endless supply of god beliefs, cause if they do, I'll just have to throw myself to the mercy of that invisible giant in the sky and hope she forgives me for not getting it right.

Otherwise, as the song goes, I hope I burn well.

Or not.

Is it true only Mormons get into heaven?
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:16 AM
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"America's Turf Authority Since 1894"--the Bible

FTFY!!!!!!
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:18 AM
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FTFY!!!!!!

Shoot.

The temperature just shot up 100 degrees in this room.

I can smell a hint of sulfur too. Uh oh, I think I've done it.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the beans I ate earlier.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:44 AM
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...The fool has said in his heart "There is no God"--the Bible
didn't we already do this?

if you're going to quote verse tim, quote verse.

use the entire passage, not a conveniently emasculated snippet.

bring the full fury of the words forth. and mean every one of them.

do you even know which book you're misquoting?

i enjoyed reading curt's thoughtful take.

you, on the other hand, bring the usual rigid stupidity that defines everything i detest about mindless adherence to doctrine.

i can't wait for your dimwitted monosyllabic reply.
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:08 AM
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Pascal's Wager would be a fitting argument for a "Does God exist" discussion on a horse racing forum
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:56 AM
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didn't we already do this?

if you're going to quote verse tim, quote verse.

use the entire passage, not a conveniently emasculated snippet.

bring the full fury of the words forth. and mean every one of them.

do you even know which book you're misquoting?

i enjoyed reading curt's thoughtful take.

you, on the other hand, bring the usual rigid stupidity that defines everything i detest about mindless adherence to doctrine.

i can't wait for your dimwitted monosyllabic reply.
You enjoyed Curts take and then you chided him about it? Mighty big of you, wasn't it! You can cut the verses any way you want, but you've already answered the question in your mind, so deal with it when your time comes. It's not on me.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:57 AM
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You enjoyed Curts take and then you chided him about it? Mighty big of you, wasn't it! You can cut the verses any way you want, but you've already answered the question in your mind, so deal with it when your time comes. It's not on me.
i didn't chide him you dullard.

this and my last post to you is chiding.

and i didn't cut verse. you did.

which book, chapter, and verse was it dimwit? I know you're too slow to actually know the answer but are you also too lazy to look it up?

you have no have faith. you have blind obedience. there's a world of difference between that and what curt expressed. he's come to his beliefs through a struggle.

you should try it sometime.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:40 AM
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i didn't chide him you dullard.

this and my last post to you is chiding.

and i didn't cut verse. you did.

which book, chapter, and verse was it dimwit? I know you're too slow to actually know the answer but are you also too lazy to look it up?

you have no have faith. you have blind obedience. there's a world of difference between that and what curt expressed. he's come to his beliefs through a struggle.

you should try it sometime.
you don't know anything of my struggles, and you follow the same line of reasoning that makes you ridicule anything that upsets your myopic view of God. I don't care anything about what you say, you've stated your positions
ad nauseum. You are correct that we've been over this before,and I haven't changed my opinion. Carry on....
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