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[miraja2]

The thing I don't get - and the reason I brought up the death penalty - is why abortion seems to be the only issue that matters for some people.
For people like IrishofNDMan, it seems like as long as the person is anti-choice they are welcome at a place like ND, even if they disagree with the Church about other issues. If some other person agrees on a lot of the issues the Church has an opinion on, but is pro-choice....well, that person isn't welcome.
Now, clearly this isn't reflective of all Catholics, because Obama got 54% of the Catholic vote (as compared to under 50% of the Protestant vote), but a few high-profile Catholics have seemed to raise the anti-choice agenda as the one and only criteria for being a true Catholic.
As a former Catholic, that seems a little odd to me.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by miraja2

The thing I don't get - and the reason I brought up the death penalty - is why abortion seems to be the only issue that matters for some people.
For people like IrishofNDMan, it seems like as long as the person is anti-choice they are welcome at a place like ND, even if they disagree with the Church about other issues. If some other person agrees on a lot of the issues the Church has an opinion on, but is pro-choice....well, that person isn't welcome.
Now, clearly this isn't reflective of all Catholics, because Obama got 54% of the Catholic vote (as compared to under 50% of the Protestant vote), but a few high-profile Catholics have seemed to raise the anti-choice agenda as the one and only criteria for being a true Catholic.
As a former Catholic, that seems a little odd to me.

well said

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_BWMG8a3io

[AeWingnut]

the term anti-choice is so Orwellian

Someone explained to me that Norte Dame is no longer a Catholic School that many of the students aren't catholic and many of the professors are pretty much Ward Churchill.

Another fine institution taken over by parasites. I guess it is true that 97% of the seniors do want him to speak.

[brianwspencer]

Well, because it seems that people who vehemently disagree with me want to use townhall, WND, and newsmax as news sources...I figured this has as good a shot as anything:

http://townhall.com/columnists/Allen..._or_notre_dame

There are anti-choicers out there who disagree with your position, Austin.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

the term anti-choice is so Orwellian

Someone explained to me that Norte Dame is no longer a Catholic School that many of the students aren't catholic and many of the professors are pretty much Ward Churchill.

Another fine institution taken over by parasites. I guess it is true that 97% of the seniors do want him to speak.

i feel the same way about "pro-life".

why aren't these people blocking funeral's instead of medical clinics?

"you can't go in!"

"but my mother...she died..."

"there are other options."

but congrats to notre dame for being unafraid to hear another voice. this is the flip side of the inauguration controversy over who gave the invocation.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i feel the same way about "pro-life".

why aren't these people blocking funeral's instead of medical clinics?

"you can't go in!"

"but my mother...she died..."

"there are other options."

but congrats to notre dame for being unafraid to hear another voice. this is the flip side of the inauguration controversy over who gave the invocation.

you have to go way outside the context of the argument to get where you are going.

Apparently zerO isn't providing another voice it's the same voice. The school has lost it's way. 97% of the graduates want to hear the teleprompter.

since we are talking about school... if someone is against school choice does that make them anti-choice?

[AeWingnut]

I find it more ironic/ sad that people that are against the death penalty have zero problem with the murder of the innocent

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I find it more ironic/ sad that people that are against the death penalty have zero problem with the murder of the innocent

Touche. Is it not the de facto anti-choice position to be pretty seriously thrilled with the death penalty? Good lord, I honestly can't remember the last time someone was anti-choice AND anti-death penalty. Ie, Killing real humans is totally good, it's just the murdering of blatocysts that's wrong.

10-4.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

The thing I don't get - and the reason I brought up the death penalty - is why abortion seems to be the only issue that matters for some people.
For people like IrishofNDMan, it seems like as long as the person is anti-choice they are welcome at a place like ND, even if they disagree with the Church about other issues. If some other person agrees on a lot of the issues the Church has an opinion on, but is pro-choice....well, that person isn't welcome.
Now, clearly this isn't reflective of all Catholics, because Obama got 54% of the Catholic vote (as compared to under 50% of the Protestant vote), but a few high-profile Catholics have seemed to raise the anti-choice agenda as the one and only criteria for being a true Catholic.
As a former Catholic, that seems a little odd to me.

i asked the same type thing a few weeks back in a thread that followed similar lines.
notre dame isn't a strictly catholic institution, so i don't see that a school who has a divergent student body can suddenly cry foul and use their supposed 'school religion' as a reason to bar a speaker.

and as a former catholic, a lot of what the church does, what it stands for, is odd to me.

[philcski]

I'm still trying to figure out how someone who goes to Michigan State has such a strong pulse on what's going on at Notre Dame.