CD renames La Troienne (And now renames the Louisville La Troienne!)

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Danzig

go for wand established quite a reputation on the track, and both figured to be hall of famers before losing their lives. the same can't be said about eight belles.
the sole reason eight belles got a race is that she died, that is not the only reason go for wand and ruffian got a stakes race named for them. there's really no comparison.

Yes there is, if people are going to argue that part of the reason this is a dumb move by Churchill is because it will stir up bad memories.

I don't think this is a smart move OR a dumb move by CD. They are choosing to honor a filly who ran a fantastic race against males in the greatest race in the world, and then died on the track. They'll probably run it for a couple years and then change the name to something else.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by justindew

Yes there is, if people are going to argue that part of the reason this is a dumb move by Churchill is because it will stir up bad memories.

I don't think this is a smart move OR a dumb move by CD. They are choosing to honor a filly who ran a fantastic race against males in the greatest race in the world, and then died on the track. They'll probably run it for a couple years and then change the name to something else.

That's debatable.

I wonder if they'll name one after Chelokee?

[blackthroatedwind]

I figure The Justin Dew can't be far behind.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I figure The Justin Dew can't be far behind.

The Joel Cunningham is first.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The Joel Cunningham is first.

Got a nice ring to it, doesn't it? Unfortunately, the Barack Obama will probably be first before either one of those.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I figure The Justin Dew can't be far behind.

I think that would cost you about $40 for your average Wednesday night $5k/4.5k claimer at Charles Town.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I figure The Justin Dew can't be far behind.

I want to start referring to myself as The Justin Dew.

Can I steal that?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by justindew

I want to start referring to myself as The Justin Dew.

Can I steal that?

Let's hope you perform better than THE Green Monkey.

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[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ

That's debatable.

I wonder if they'll name one after Chelokee?

Only a matter of time. The irony would be if they did it for a race he won--the Barbaro. Unfortunately I'm not really able to muster up the energy to grumble as much about renaming the La Troienne--I'm still annoyed by the renaming of the Sir Barton. I know we can't get a group of people to agree on binding drug policies but surely it wouldn't kill them to agree not to rename races of a certain level without some sort of procedure. Like if they're in the Hall of Fame you can't rename it or something.

Now for another fun one. You can make an argument for naming a race after Mineshaft, sure, but one race he shouldn't have had renamed for him---the Whirlaway. Seriously, this is getting ridiculous. It's a matter of time before they rename the Secretariat or the Man O'War. (Sure it sounds like a dramatic load of crap but really, let enough time go by. Clearly there's a point where it's ok to forget about honoring TC winners like Sir Barton and Whirlaway).

[sumitas]

The LaTroienne should stand . I wonder why Saratoga has never had a stakes named The Somethingroyal ? The dam of Secretariat and Sir Gaylord had one career race ; at Saratoga , Aug. 2 , 1954, unplaced .

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by sumitas

The LaTroienne should stand . I wonder why Saratoga has never had a stakes named The Somethingroyal ? The dam of Secretariat and Sir Gaylord had one career race ; at Saratoga , Aug. 2 , 1954, unplaced .

Colonial Downs named a race for her. A restricted turf stakes for fillies and mares that it appears didn't happen in 2008 but 2000-2007 they have run it. Bright Gold won it twice and With Patience won it once. She was 3rd in the Gallorette. I don't pretend to understand the logic of their race naming any more than I do the Man O'War and Secretariat being on turf. I know Secretariat had a turf race but he was a TC winner on dirt for pete's sake.

As for the Whirlaway being renamed for Mineshaft, like a chump I didn't notice there were in fact other races named for him that are still named that (see the top of our own board this week) but as I said, give'em time. I mean there's no race named for Big Brown yet and boy will that be fun? "The Big Brown Stakes" sounds rather bathroom related but that won't stop anybody.

[Pedigree Ann]

You should try to follow international racing, where sponsor names can change every few years. The big 1800m race at the big summer meet at Perth has been the Western Mail, the Marlboro Cup, the Rothmans Cup, the Winfields Cup, the Fruit 'n Veg S, and most recently, the Kingston Town Classic (named after a famous Australian racehorse). The mile race on Victoria Oaks day has been the George Addmas H, the Honda S, the Chrysler H, The Ampol S, and is currently the Emirates S. Most of the changes in the last 20 years. ARRRRGH

[blackthroatedwind]

Pretentious anyone?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by justindew

Yes there is, if people are going to argue that part of the reason this is a dumb move by Churchill is because it will stir up bad memories.

I don't think this is a smart move OR a dumb move by CD. They are choosing to honor a filly who ran a fantastic race against males in the greatest race in the world, and then died on the track. They'll probably run it for a couple years and then change the name to something else.

i'm not one arguing it will produce bad memories...but, i can hear it now- 'who was eight belles'? and the only thing of note anyone will be able to tell the person asking the question is that she finished second in the derby and then didn't make the gallop out. that's the ONLY thing of note about this horse. certainly it wasn't her win in the fantasy that got her this stakes named for her. in that respect, it is no comparison to ruffian or go for wand, who both did plenty on the track to warrant getting a race named in their honor.