Worst Ride of the Year

freddymo · #1 11-19-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Perfect example of this today: Sanchez on Mucho Gusto; decides to go after the still strong (after slowish fractions) speed and gets run down late losing 2nd-- doesn't even hit the board.

It's amazing how presumptious you can be..First you figure Sanchez understands that the fractions are slowish, then you also come to the conclusion that he KNOWS the leader is still strong ish and not thru.. All while riding their laimo cow of a horse with 7 injuries and two injected ankles.. What's worse if the rider had let the STILL STRONG speed continue to loaf in slowish fractions and or presented his horse too late you would be complaining about a poorly timed belated move... 90% of the time the best horse wins so why this overweighted detail to jocks and there split second decisions is puzzling for such a good capper.

Bobby Fischer · #2 11-19-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

90% of the time the best horse wins so why this overweighted detail to jocks and there split second decisions is puzzling for such a good capper.

So 10% of the race is determined by jockeys?

freddymo · #3 11-19-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

So 10% of the race is determined by jockeys?

9 times out of ten the best horse wins the race the jock is completely irrelivant most of the time.

Bobby Fischer · #4 11-19-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

9 times out of ten the best horse wins the race the jock is completely irrelivant most of the time.

What about the other 20%?

freddymo · #5 11-19-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

What about the other 20%?

I am not very good at math

freddymo · #6 11-19-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't get it.

Was beyond my limited mind

Bobby Fischer · #7 11-19-2008, 01:22 PM

i think i botched the old Yogi Berra crack "Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical."

Indian Charlie · #8 11-19-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

9 times out of ten the best horse wins the race the jock is completely irrelivant most of the time.

I never figured you for the Pollyannish type.

djw · #9 11-19-2008, 02:37 PM

I rarely have much to add. I know my limitations and love to learn the fine points when a race is broken down in an articulate manner, but I have to state this opinion:

Between last week's riveting contest with 7K+ views, and some of the "instant classics" in this thread, it is like Christmas 5 weeks early!!!!!

As we used to say in the dyas ov vinyl "The Hits just keep on coming!"

Bobby Fischer · #10 11-19-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm not sure you'll ever really know with any certainty what percentage a jock has on a race. But it's not as much as you think IMO.

you can choose to be as detailed or as general as you want with horseracing.

A lot of horseplayers mainly look at running lines, finish position, class, and speed figures on a sheet of paper.

Of course the actual races aren't computer simulations based on programs to fit the data. There are actually primates riding around on top of ungulates dealing with atmospheric phenomena and track conditions. The different surfaces and distances vary enough and demand different enough ability sets to make it difficult to predict many races with data alone.

lolz