Beulah, River Downs the next to go...

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

And i bet if you took away on video the track name the posted fractions, you could not tell if you was watching a
grade 1 or 5,000 claimers. They have exciting races too, just slower.

without any doubt i know I could, and so could many others.

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

without any doubt i know I could, and so could many others.

Well maybe you can, but tell me how you can tell the difference, if you didn't know the jockeys on the horses no track name no fractional times just a generic screen how can you tell if it was a cheap claimer or a stakes race I've
watch horse races for 33 years and doubt if I could. Im very interested how you can tell difference on the video

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

Well maybe you can, but tell me how you can tell the difference, if you didn't know the jockeys on the horses no track name no fractional times just a generic screen how can you tell if it was a cheap claimer or a stakes race I've
watch horse races for 33 years and doubt if I could. Im very interested how you can tell difference on the video

i think you could tell the difference in GR1's from 5K claimers if you've been watching that long. cheap horses don't look as fluid, have shorter strides in the stretch, etc. if the classes were closer, like gr3 vs. allowance, or higher claimers vs allowance, i agree that without any visual cues it would be hard to know the difference.

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i think you could tell the difference in GR1's from 5K claimers if you've been watching that long. cheap horses don't look as fluid, have shorter strides in the stretch, etc. if the classes were closer, like gr3 vs. allowance, or higher claimers vs allowance, i agree that without any visual cues it would be hard to know the difference.

Maybe so, i was just defending river downs and beulah on the comment they were rubbish. I get just as excited in the stretch run in a claimer(if my horse is in lead or coming hard ) as i do stakes races. The person who said river has a nice turf course is very correct. They were running these way back before it was popular. very nice track. Just cheap horses.

[SentToStud]

River Downs is nice. But Beulah? Come on. What of interest has ever happened there, aside from Art Schlicter losing everything he had and then some?

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

River Downs is nice. But Beulah? Come on. What of interest has ever happened there, aside from Art Schlicter losing everything he had and then some?

Bealuh is okay and has a nice clubhouse, nothing special there but has some
charm and nice paddock with benches and all. the clubhouse is small but nice and remember Beulah runs most of its season in dead of winter and screen shot is always gloomy and muddy. However it's still a horsetrack and for people who live in that area it's nice for them. everybody can't live 1 hour from saratoga, santa anita so these tracks is all they have.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

Maybe so, i was just defending river downs and beulah on the comment they were rubbish. I get just as excited in the stretch run in a claimer(if my horse is in lead or coming hard ) as i do stakes races. The person who said river has a nice turf course is very correct. They were running these way back before it was popular. very nice track. Just cheap horses.

i understand your point, live racing can be enjoyable no matter what the class. we're going through some tough times, i think many of the older and smaller parks will struggle to make it.