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Old 03-01-2008, 08:00 AM
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I'm sure that's true. I guess if I was the owner and had $1 Million + into this horse (or the trainer) and looked at how Curlin, Street Sense and Barbaro got to the TC, I'd be hard pressed not to take a shot. All three of these got there non-conventionally...
Curlin did......and he was one in a million so to speak. Street Sense and Barbaro? They had very strong bases to build in.

This is not a question of unconventional. This is overzealousness. Good luck to them.
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Old 03-01-2008, 08:12 AM
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Curlin did......and he was one in a million so to speak. Street Sense and Barbaro? They had very strong bases to build in.

This is not a question of unconventional. This is overzealousness. Good luck to them.
Foundation wise, yes Curlin only. But while Barbaro (5 weeks) and Street Sense (two preps) both had foundations, they each defied conventional wisdom in their own ways.

Who knows? But I think people are more likely to take their shots than a few years ago....
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Old 03-01-2008, 08:36 AM
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8th Race. (C3) Post 4:50PM ALLOWANCE
Purse $41,500 (Plus $5,500 F.O.A. Winner Supp.) 1 1/8 Miles
For Three Year Olds Which Have Never Won A Race Other Than Maiden, Claiming Or Starter or Which Have Never Won Two Races.
1 COOL GATOR (L) '05 C E34 118 Prado, E Hillsbrook Farms Vella, D
2 JACK'S ELEVEN (L) '05 C R19 118 Maysonett, F Kelly, P Mongeon, K
3 NISTLE'S CRUNCH (L) '05 C R24 118 Lezcano, J Alien Farm LLC and Furst, Alan McPeek, K
4 JAZZAHOLIC (L) '05 C 0 **111 Lopez, P Delany, Brian and Plummer, Diana L. Catanese, III, J
5 UNDERSTATEMENT (L) '05 C R31 118 Velazquez, J WinStar Farm LLC Pletcher, T
6 EXTREME FROLIC (L) '05 C R29 118 Cruz, M Stride Rite Racing Stable, Inc. Wolfson, MW
7 SAMBA ROOSTER (L) '05 C R32 122 Castro, E Off The Hook LLC Wolfson, MD
8 MAMBO MEISTER (L) '05 G R29 118 Castellano, J Cavanaugh, James R. and Pallas, Chris Gleaves, P
9 BORDEAUX BANDIT (L) '05 C R34 120 Bravo, J My Meadowview Farm Zito, N
10 AQUARIAN (L) '05 C R29 118 Coa, E Farmer, T Zito, N


Is going from a 6f mdn win to a 9F NW1X Alw all that unusual??....I'd think that I'd rather see that as opposed to going from a mdn win directly into a Stakes race.
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Old 03-01-2008, 09:48 AM
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8th Race. (C3) Post 4:50PM ALLOWANCE
Purse $41,500 (Plus $5,500 F.O.A. Winner Supp.) 1 1/8 Miles
For Three Year Olds Which Have Never Won A Race Other Than Maiden, Claiming Or Starter or Which Have Never Won Two Races.
1 COOL GATOR (L) '05 C E34 118 Prado, E Hillsbrook Farms Vella, D
2 JACK'S ELEVEN (L) '05 C R19 118 Maysonett, F Kelly, P Mongeon, K
3 NISTLE'S CRUNCH (L) '05 C R24 118 Lezcano, J Alien Farm LLC and Furst, Alan McPeek, K
4 JAZZAHOLIC (L) '05 C 0 **111 Lopez, P Delany, Brian and Plummer, Diana L. Catanese, III, J
5 UNDERSTATEMENT (L) '05 C R31 118 Velazquez, J WinStar Farm LLC Pletcher, T
6 EXTREME FROLIC (L) '05 C R29 118 Cruz, M Stride Rite Racing Stable, Inc. Wolfson, MW
7 SAMBA ROOSTER (L) '05 C R32 122 Castro, E Off The Hook LLC Wolfson, MD
8 MAMBO MEISTER (L) '05 G R29 118 Castellano, J Cavanaugh, James R. and Pallas, Chris Gleaves, P
9 BORDEAUX BANDIT (L) '05 C R34 120 Bravo, J My Meadowview Farm Zito, N
10 AQUARIAN (L) '05 C R29 118 Coa, E Farmer, T Zito, N


Is going from a 6f mdn win to a 9F NW1X Alw all that unusual??....I'd think that I'd rather see that as opposed to going from a mdn win directly into a Stakes race.
I realize we're talking about Understatement here, but I hate that post for Bordeaux Bandit... isn't doing him any favors at all.

I'll have to place a name bet on Cool Gator, especially since Prado is aboard and he's coming from an inside post.
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Old 03-01-2008, 09:55 AM
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Curlin did......and he was one in a million so to speak. Street Sense and Barbaro? They had very strong bases to build in.

This is not a question of unconventional. This is overzealousness. Good luck to them.
and of course pletcher and winstar can afford to take the risk, the rewards (IF lucky enough to get any with this horse) would be astronomical.
but i doubt they could say with a straight face that they have the horses best interests in mind here. but at this time of year, with a promising three year old, who does?

and of course no surprise when i go to the pedigree page, he's by distorted humor. one start. one win. oh, a derby horse.
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