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Old 01-11-2010, 10:34 AM
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If biggest hype horse ran a 105 in his second and this horse ran 17 lengths behind in his first which is what a 75 BSF then I think it was a very good first try.
More like a 60 Freddy.
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Old 01-11-2010, 12:57 PM
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More like a 60 Freddy.
I thought it would be 35 less..Isnt 10l 25pts?
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Old 01-11-2010, 01:10 PM
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The final margin was over 17 lengths.

How in the hell did that horse take so much money? Tapit's are very low percentage on debut ... and the dam was a turf marathoner.
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Old 01-11-2010, 01:11 PM
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The final margin was over 17 lengths.

How in the hell did that horse take so much money? Tapit's are very low percentage on debut ... and the dam was a turf marathoner.
Was not a debut I believe but a second start.
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Old 01-11-2010, 01:15 PM
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Was not a debut I believe but a second start.
He's talking about the 2nd place finisher.

The winner actually opened up pretty short in his debut at Saratoga if I remember correctly. . . The race was so loaded, though, that his odds had to go high when the pools filled out.
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Old 01-11-2010, 01:25 PM
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He's talking about the 2nd place finisher.

The winner actually opened up pretty short in his debut at Saratoga if I remember correctly. . . The race was so loaded, though, that his odds had to go high when the pools filled out.
The winner ran an absolutely mind-boggling race when 3rd in his debut at Saratoga.

StoneGossard did a nice write-up on him at his blog.

http://traderpete.blogspot.com/2009/...st-part-1.html
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Old 01-11-2010, 01:26 PM
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I'll take my chances that Avenging Spirit is a good horse and he showed why he was heavily bet. Wow, a first time starter, who was studdish in the paddock and acted up, tired badly from chasing a speed horse that ran a monsterous race. That's never happened before.
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Old 01-11-2010, 01:55 PM
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I don't disagree. He should improve a whole lot. Certainly could be a good horse.

The mother was a nice closing turf stayer .. and Tapit's often seem to move plenty forward off of their debut.

Tapit's debuters are a combined 5-for-86, his best ones like Carless Jewel and Stardom Bound both got beat on debut.

Even without getting into circumstances - it's impressive that Avenging Spirt was good enough to run a Beyer in the low 60's on debut.

I'd have been a lot more excited if he was 30/1 instead of 3/1.
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