Why win and your in sucks...

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Brian the problem is that there are already 4 qualifiers (WAYI) for the turf mile. What if (when?) they expand the program to 6 or 7 races and you get a couple of bombs winning under adverse weather conditions or other outside factors? Then there may be zero spots open. To me it is a bad idea using gimmicks to award spots in your best races which will serve to further deteroriate our non-Breeders Cup stakes. The difference between the NCAA tourney (which was the idea behind it) and this is that the longshot teams that win the conference tourneys rarely knock out teams with a chance to actually win it all because there are 65 spots where here there are less than 7 in the turf races. The Phoenix winner may be a better example.

Ok, that makes it a bit different. If the idea is mainly that you're against WAYI on principle, that's a different story. For a horse like Off Duty, that raises a valid and important point. I guess I just think you used the wrong example of why WAYI sucks. I think it's a stupid idea, because the winner of almost all of these races will generally get into the BC field of the corresponding race on their own merits.

I just think that to try to imply that Purim is only deserving of being in the BC Mile because of WAYI, and not because of the fact that he ran a huge race in a huge GI three weeks out from the BC is a bit unfair given that had Purim run well a few starts before, and gone off at 9/2, nobody would even be having this conversation.

I mean, if Purim shouldn't get in (though I know you said that maybe you chose the wrong race to object to), then Discreet Cat should be left out of any oversubscribed field, right? No stakes wins this year. No wins at all this year. You mentioned him in your post two back. If he is allowed in any BC race just based on his form from last year, I think we should be more than capable of finding reasons for a Grade I winner in October to be allowed into the BC Mile, ya know?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Ok, that makes it a bit different. If the idea is mainly that you're against WAYI on principle, that's a different story. For a horse like Off Duty, that raises a valid and important point. I guess I just think you used the wrong example of why WAYI sucks. I think it's a stupid idea, because the winner of almost all of these races will generally get into the BC field of the corresponding race on their own merits.

I just think that to try to imply that Purim is only deserving of being in the BC Mile because of WAYI, and not because of the fact that he ran a huge race in a huge GI three weeks out from the BC is a bit unfair given that had Purim run well a few starts before, and gone off at 9/2, nobody would even be having this conversation.

I mean, if Purim shouldn't get in (though I know you said that maybe you chose the wrong race to object to), then Discreet Cat should be left out of any oversubscribed field, right? No stakes wins this year. No wins at all this year. You mentioned him in your post two back. If he is allowed in any BC race just based on his form from last year, I think we should be more than capable of finding reasons for a Grade I winner in October to be allowed into the BC Mile, ya know?

I just see troubling times ahead in the Breeders Cupazitation of the racing world. If the whole premise was to get the best fields together throughout the year as a lead up to the BC I could see the value in it. But to randomly just award spots in hopes of creating "excitement" of "dark horses" is stupid.