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Old 11-10-2009, 08:58 PM
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I suppose the Clark Hcp and Cigar Mile will help sort out the picture. Macho Again might win the Eclipse by default. Who else is there? Albertus Maximus? Einstein? Rail Trip? Bribon?
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:01 PM
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:04 PM
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Are you going to count the turf wins, because shouldn't the Eclipse for Grass account for those?
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:08 PM
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Could Zenyatta qualify for this?

She is older..plus she is a horse
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:29 PM
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I suppose the Clark Hcp and Cigar Mile will help sort out the picture. Macho Again might win the Eclipse by default. Who else is there? Albertus Maximus? Einstein? Rail Trip? Bribon?
I would rather see Well Armed win it over Macho Again. That would be a shame IMO. I guess Gio Ponti wins this? This one is really tough. Einstein maybe? How many Grade 1's does he have this year?
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:47 PM
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I would rather see Well Armed win it over Macho Again. That would be a shame IMO. I guess Gio Ponti wins this? This one is really tough. Einstein maybe? How many Grade 1's does he have this year?
Macho Again had 3 times as many stakes wins as Well Armed did in this country. I understand not wanting to give it to Macho Again but Well Armed is not even an option.

If it has to be an older dirt horse it boils down to Macho and Bullsbay as sad as that is.

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Old 11-10-2009, 09:49 PM
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Macho Again had 3 times as many stakes wins as Well Armed did in this country. I understand not wanting to give it to Macho Again but Well Armed is not even an option.

If it has to be an older dirt horse it boils down to Macho and Bullsbay as sad as that is.

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Old 11-10-2009, 09:51 PM
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The whole division sucked, they ought to just take the award away.

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Old 11-10-2009, 09:52 PM
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I would rather see Well Armed win it over Macho Again. That would be a shame IMO. I guess Gio Ponti wins this? This one is really tough. Einstein maybe? How many Grade 1's does he have this year?
I don't think Gio Ponti could get this off a second in the Classic. His only dirt win this year came in a Grade 3.
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I don't think Gio Ponti could get this off a second in the Classic. His only dirt win this year came in a Grade 3.
Well I would give it to Gio Ponti, Bullsbay, Einstein, and even Well Armed before Macho Again... Even though on paper Macho Again did more and defeated Bullsbay and Einstein head to head... DAM HES GOING TO WIN THIS.

Maybe Commentator? He did go 1/3 with a 95 Beyer in a NY Bred Stakes Races.
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Gio Ponti will win this award
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Gio Ponti will win this award

Einstein for the sentimental fools among us....
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Einstein for the sentimental fools among us....
he shipped all over the country and ran his heart out. the only real bad race was at arlington? he was in the BC until the 1/16th pole.
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Are you going to count the turf wins, because shouldn't the Eclipse for Grass account for those?
there's no reason the top turf male can't win top older; he's my pick for this. there's past precedent for multiple awards.
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Could Zenyatta qualify for this?

She is older..plus she is a horse

she'd get top older female.
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:37 AM
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Einstein for the sentimental fools among us....
I was disappointed with his flat effort... he's better than what we saw this weekend and certainly could have contended down the stretch on his best day.
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I don't understand how Gio Ponti can't win this award. It's not necessarily reserved for a dirt horse, is it?
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Well I would give it to Gio Ponti, Bullsbay, Einstein, and even Well Armed before Macho Again... Even though on paper Macho Again did more and defeated Bullsbay and Einstein head to head... DAM HES GOING TO WIN THIS.

Maybe Commentator? He did go 1/3 with a 95 Beyer in a NY Bred Stakes Races.
Bullsbay faced Macho Again four times this year winning twice.
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Old 11-11-2009, 09:58 AM
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Gio Ponti will win this award
Gio Ponte is the most deserving but sports writers are mostly idiots, for an example see the AL Gold Glove winners.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:10 AM
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If it had to be a dirt horse and Bribon wins the Cigar Mile, its him.

If it can go to a turf horse, Gio Ponti had a pretty salty campaign and many Grade One wins.
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