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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I think that they used to be cutting edge and gave those guys a big edge. Nowdays the edge they have is small or doesnt even exist especially since pace is not incorporated into the numbers (supposedly). Just as Beyers are raw numbers that are adjusted based upon different peoples interpretation of the race with little to no regard for pace, trips, surface, post position, etc, they both have flaws and in a world where there is so much information available they dont stand out to me.
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I was looking more for your opinions and where you stand on the validity of sheet figure patterns and form cycles.