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Originally Posted by Danzig
four trophies? to celebrate that saudi kings can get medical care here, but a lot of our own citizens can't?
oh, bravo.
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Um - no - four trophies to celebrate that we have the best medical system in the world - the one that Saudi Kings - who can afford the best - come to in order to save their own lives.
Don't you think that's indicative of the quality and innovation that we had prior to this Obamacare BS? You think we just magically whipped up some great doctors and facilities for the once in a while that some bigshot comes into the country to get treated? Get real. We have made many strides in the access to healthcare, the technology of new treatments, medicines, and the like ever since "modern" medicine first started during the Civil War. That's 150 years of progress.
I should say we "had" the best because you're going to get your way - the medical industry will essentially be destroyed and we will be as mediocre as other nations. We'll get the UK's breast cancer survivability stats instead of our current, higher stats.
Look up the cancer survival statistics in general. Ours are the highest. Anything that adds delay to treatment is a bad idea, and that is exactly what will happen when the red tape gets in the way, and when doctors start retiring early, and when there are fewer applying to medical school. Do the math. Less supply meeting more demand equals longer delays in treatment. And, consequently - higher death rates. These aren't reported unless the person actually makes it to the hospital. Dying while waiting for an appointment or a surgery is easily ignored by the government statisticians.
Obamacare's biggest sin is that it is STUPID. You can't force "bending the cost curve" without DENYING service, and allowing whatever the consequences of that to manifest themselves on would-be patients.
And by the way - there is no such thing as "single payer". That is the name for socialized medicine, yes, but the payers are the same as always - all us suckers who work for a living. If 47% are paying no taxes, the other 53% are your "single payer".
It's time to stop drinking the Obama Kool Aid.