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Originally Posted by Danzig
one, i don't know why anyone would believe any politician, ever.
two, it's been said all over, including here (and linked from fact check among others) since he first made the claim, that there was NO guarantee you'd be able to keep your coverage. it was bs then, it's bs now, it's been bs all along.
the aca is the most convoluted clusterfu** to come out of d.c. in god knows how long-it may be the biggest mess of a law EVER. all the contortions being engaged in, in order to get health care for everyone.
i know some don't like the thought of single payer-it would have been the best way to handle it. that way, everyone was covered. no subsidies, no employer offered coverage, no website trying to link to every other bureau that has some say in if you get a subsidy, how much, if you qualify, are you a citizen, married, income, kids....oh, one moved mid-year..oh, you got a divorce. now you have to pay back part of last years subsidy....
oh, you're working for someone who offers group coverage? well, no subsidy for you-you can only get that if you buy thru an exchange.
how many people will want their employer to get rid of their healthcare plan, so they can get a subsidy?
what a mess. all to avoid single payer.
if you marry, divorce, a child graduates and moves out (goes in the service maybe?) you change jobs, maybe get a raise...all that figures in the following year for that years subsidy. and we all know that life doesn't only change on 12/31 of each year.
oh boy.
all i can say to those who are caught by surprise now-guess you shoulda been paying attention the last four-five years.
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You are right. There were plenty of people who predicted this all along. Most Republicans claimed it all along. It was one of those things where Obama was claiming one thing and the Republicans were claiming the opposite. I think most conservative voters believed the Republicans and most liberal voters believed Obama. Most of the people in the middle probably weren't sure who to believe.
Anyway, the truth is finally coming out. It is probably no surprise to 40% of the population but I think it's a surprise to everyone else including the liberal media. Even NBC is making a big deal out of this (and I think they should).
I think this is a huge deal. There have been several little things that have happened over the last few years that have hurt both parties but I don't think any of those things compare to this. I think this is a deal changer. I think this will really hurt the democrats. I could be wrong. We will see what happens.