Didn't win a Grade 1 on turf but I do believe he wasn't far off. Raced till 9.
http://www.oldfriendsequine.org/hors...uccess-12.html
That's a campaign....As for Sec, it's a tired discussion on here and is in the reading room. Yes I think he is overrated....I'm sorry you think my example is a bum. With legends like Einstein mentioned in the thread, I was getting more of a stream on consciousness vibe about the topic. I should have run it by you first. All better.