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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Easily one of the most amusing threads in awhile. Of course the inside was the place to be BC day, as it was for a week before, and a week after. Could you win from outside, yes, as many did. Honestly, Scuds, you seem like a good guy, but you have a knack for making a lot of excuses for things. Bad rides, track biases, etc. Quiet Little Miss is a neat little horse, but she IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH to make a splash at all in the 3 year old filly division. Was the track a little quirky BC day, sure. but your examples are bad. The sprint is always a crapshoot. Was Henny a bad favorite. yes. And if you took him, or the other grade 1 winners, which are pretty laughable, then it is your fault. I know that is hard to take, but it's the truth. Thors Echo was the best horse that day, no doubt. As was Street Sense, see Breeders Futurity, watch the race. And if you believe the problems Round Pond had before the Beladme, she was very playable. At a certain point, you have to look in the mirror, and say, if you say there is a bias, then you're bad for not picking up on it. The whole, "the track was garbage" thing is a giant excuse for not winning BC day. I cannot think of a race BC day where I cannot say the best horse that day, won that day. For those who are determined to deflect handicapping, for reality, what horse that won BC day, wasn't best that day?
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Handicapping is done after the race,and before it.I realize many people don't care why horses don't run .Often you will read a professional handicapper's comments about a race,and they will include an idea about a horse's last race.Like it,or not,there are sometimes reasons why a horse's last race can be forgiven.Not always,because many times horses have health problems etc. There are no excuses for anybody gambling on horses(nobody gets a dime back if a horse has an excuse.)There are (sometimes) excuses for horses that perform poorly in a particular race.You act as though it is an act of pedophilia to examine what happened to a horse during a race,and see if the race can be forgiven.I don't feel that way.You feel as though it is whining to look at what happened to horses during their race.I don't.Mel Stute did it:
"Mel Stute thought his filly Quick Little Miss was compromised by a wide post in the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies at Churchill Downs, and believed she would not mind being brought back just 15 days after that race. He was right. Quick Little Miss, last of seven at the top of the stretch, closed furiously to nail odds-on favorite Jump On In and capture the $100,000 Moccasin Stakes for 2-year-old fillies on Sunday at Hollywood Park.....
"I wasted a little money going back East," said Stute, who trains Quick Little Miss for his wife, Annabelle, and the Schiffer family's The Hat Ranch. "I thought she was good enough for that race.
I'm hoping the post position and the track beat her."
So,myself and Mel are evidently the antichrist's little helpers,because we think the track hurt the chances of some horses that day.Fine.I love my company in crime.One more for ya:
“She had no shot
after breaking out there, the way that track played on Breeders’ Cup Day,” Chapman said. “It’s one of those things where you wish you hadn’t even run. She came out of it fine. There wasn’t much effort to it.”-James Chapman(trainer of Malibu Mint.)
See,be careful because you aren't just making fun of me,you are making fun of the opinions of grade 1 winning trainers in this sport.I know what I am talking about.I know a totally unfair track when I see it,and these trainers are so sure it was messed up that they wish they didn't even run their horses on that track that day.He didn't say maybe it was the track.He said she had "no shot" from where she was on that track.