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Old 05-26-2013, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat View Post
How about this... instead of me posting links to try to prove anything please google it someday (although I will include the latest naughty list from peta... companies that test on animals).

Oh and yes... I know about the 3P program (Pollution Prevention Pays).

Nice that they just got a big tax break for a shiny, new research facility. Maybe it can hold even more dogs, cats, pigs, guniea pigs, etc.
As you know, I'm on the side of no animal cruelty, and I make eating choices accordingly (no factory farm meat, milk or eggs, and sustainable fish, which means I don't eat much meat), but I'm going to play devil's advocate.

The other side of the animal testing thing on cosmetics and household cleaners (I'm not including things like drugs and automotive stuff, which are required to go through animal testing), is that, when introducing a new product, a company needs to make sure it's done its due diligence in making sure the product is safe, because, in the event it turns out not to be, lawyers suing on behalf of plaintiffs will use any hole in testing as proof the company was negligent, and that will certainly include a lack of animal testing. The onus is then on the company to prove that animal testing would have made no difference. And that can be impossible to prove, and a lot more expensive than just testing on animals to begin with. It's a testament, sadly, to our lack of concern for animal welfare (and anyone who eats factory farmed meat, which is most of it, is directly supporting animal cruelty on a scale far larger and far more barbaric than even laboratory animals, which do fall under at least a legally required minimal standard of care, no matter how poor), and to our litigious society.

Businesses have no interest in anything other than making the most amount of money with the least amount of expenditure. If they feel they can bring products to market without testing on animals, they will, because it's cheaper for them. But they're testing because they're afraid of getting sued for an unsafe product later.

But, of course, we can always offer opinion with our pocketbooks. Here are eight products you can stop buying (if you currently do) that have been tested on animals:

Windex
Post-Its (3M)
Kleenex
Mars Candy (M&Ms, Snickers, Twix, Skittles, and many more)
Trojans
Band-Aids
Iams Pet Food
Vaseline

http://www.businessinsurance.org/8-p...ed-on-animals/

And people can write their Congresscritters and say they support freeing companies that don't test on animals from litigation if their products end up being dangerous to the public.

And I'm not sure if those things in the picture were teeth or nekkid wimmin. I saw teeth first. What does that say?
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