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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
"Over and over"? Um, okay. I was talking specifically to Zeig about specifically her comment. There was no need for you to butt in with your link that proved nothing. Show me where I said "There was no one who liked Invasor before the race." My statement was "The point is it's much easier to ridicule those who bet Bernardini to even money and singled him after he loses" and that holds validity no matter what link you pull out, so back up.
And all of this "Bernardini fans can dish it but not take it" bull****.. Give me a break. You want to say Invasor's a better horse? Fine with me. I personally am not going to say that based on one meeting and a one length difference, but if you want to say it, that's not outlandish. You want to say Bernardini was overrated? Cool. Of course he was.. Like dalakhani said, he would've had to win by 10+ NOT to be considered overrated (and for the record, it was mainly the media crowd that was overrating him in order to get people to watch). But to say he lost because of a "lack of heart" or to write him off as a total piece of **** is where I step in. All of that is silly.
By the way, you have no right to ever say a discouraging word about Bernardini if you ever hyped up Lava Man. None. The way things sound around here, you'd swear Bernardini ran last and Lava Man skipped the race. Lava Man was just as hyped earlier in the year as Bernardini was recently, and yet the people who immediately sang the praises of Lava Man's supposed brilliance get no flak whatsoever. It's a ridiculous double standard and I'm tired of it.
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Maybe your statement was valid but shouldn't it have been directed to someone that had made post race judgements? Zeig didn't, so who was it directed towards?
In my opinion your continued hot comments make you the poster-child for the "Bernardini fans can dish it but not take it" accusations. That was not an accusation I brought up but you addressed it to me so I responded.
I've never hyped Lava Man for the Classic. Many people liked him but to me he was a throwout and yes I posted that pre-race.
Maybe you're missing the point. I don't see anyone writing off Bernardini as total piece of ****. In my mind this exercise has been mainly about elevating
Invasor to the status he belongs as well as being a little more realistic about how good Bernardini was.
Frankly you seem to be still steaming about what happened. In my opinion some of your comments on this thread seem rather bellicose for a "super moderator".