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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

From the study you rather know...

Just cutting and pasting words.

You have every right to have a position on drugs in racing. Stand up and say you don't want any drugs whatsoever on race day. Nothing wrong with that.

However, you should probably come up with a reason why you oppose the direct and specific medical advice of the veterinary profession, who says that doing what you want is not best for the health and welfare of the horse.

We say these lay person interpretations (such as published by some of the anti-lasix folks) of the scientific information surrounding lasix use is wrong and off base. We advise the very opposite of what some lay people in racing are proposing.

Why are 60,000 medical professionals wrong, but lay people with no scientific education, correct?

The concepts being parroted about lasix by the anti-lasix crowd is like calling "creation science" science.

It's sad, like watching Jenny McCarthy continue to contend that autuism is caused by vaccination, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Why would every horse have a TCO2 positive? The TCO2 threshold used for detecting "milkshaking" is higher than the level signifying alkalosis.

No, the TCO2 threshold used for detecting milkshaking is "not higher than the level signifying alkalosis". That's false. You've misunderstood and confused two different concepts.

Hey, I'm just asking questions for the most part, trying to obtain some consistency and impartiality to the proceedings.

Have you read the paper Steve posted in the first post of this thread? Have you READ it yet? The first page is 100% accurate. There is absolutely zero scientific dissent with what is stated in that lay person synopsis.

Why has the use of lasix as a treatment for EIPH remained controversial for all these years?

It's not "controversial" What do you think is "controversial"?

Why has there been hundreds of studies trying to validate its efficacy if it's effects were so cut-and-dry from the outset?

First, no, the hundreds of studies done in the horse about lasix (not counting the thousands of human and non-equine species) are not trying to "validate it's efficacy" The validity is why most of the studies are being done in the first place. When science observes something happening, the point is to quantitate the physiology and other specifics behind it.

Grandma takes horse lasix, at the same dose as race horses, for her congestive failure. That's how terrible this very predictable, very low incidence of side effects loop diuretic is