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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Not clear.
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I know you've told me an old time figure maker in NY said he was one of the fastest.
He ran just six times at age 3 - in five stakes races.
His wins in the Wood, Derby, Preakness, and Withers - I'm pretty confident are not faster than 114 tops. There are a lot of other races to work with on those cards.
The race I think your friend might be refering to - is his 25 length win in the Belmont in his final start.
There was another route the day Count Fleet won the Belmont - also at 12fs - it was a MSW race that went 7.20 full seconds slower. However, it was a pretty horrid looking MSW race on paper. Count Fleet only beat two horses in the Belmont...and they both had poor form.
The Belmont figure was probably very fast -- but it's the hardest one by far to do from his 3yo races.
Whirlaway ran A LOT faster in the Derby. They carded a lot of the same type of races in the Derby in those days.