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...of course i'm sure the spitters and shovers weren't real occupiers.  they're all occupiers til one does something wrong-then that person is no longer an occupier!! remember that everyone. |
Well, that's certainly a reason to paint hundreds of thousands of other people with the same brush. Glad you caught that!
What's your point? Occupy is a peaceful movement, that absolutely promotes non-violence. Yeah, there are some that can't hold to that. Nobody has ever said there were not - but yes, if they are not peaceful, they are not following the Occupy movement's outline for protest. They may still be Occupiers. But that doesn't mean that those that are just showing up for Black Bloc violence tactics have anything to do with Occupy. Not at all.
Is that too much nuance to understand?
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Police said some officers were spit on(gross!!) and one officer was pushed by demonstrators.
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Police in Berkeley also publicly said at a news conference that the protesters had them surrounded, and they feared physical harm. Thank goodness Mr. Pepper Spray was there to step over those vicious threatening protesters, and save his fellow officers from them!
You choose to believe the police public line. I'm pointing out that over and over, actual video proves the police (some police) have been proven to be lying outright. Dell just immediately dismissed those that document police abuse as liars.
Believe your eyes, or believe the stories (from either side) Multiple expensive lawsuits have been filed against certain cities, by organizations such as the ACLU and by individual citizens, over infringement on freedoms and police brutality. When you have documented evidence, rather than only, "he said, she said", it's easy to do.
You'll notice that nobody is painting all the police with the same broad brush you are trying to paint the Occupy'ers with. There are multiple Occupy encampments where there have been zero negative interactions with the police, where the right to protest peacefully is 100% supported by the locals, police and government - no matter how inconvenient some may find it.