[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I want to preface this by saying I am not saying either horse should win HOY so any plans for a Frankenstein-esque angry mob complete with torches and pitchforks... can that wait for another day?

Okay good.

Just wondering about a couple of things...

1. If Goldikova was considered last year or the year before (in theory) or had won this year and was considered... why is it okay to consider a horse with one run (and I am not objecting to this) BUT it's such a joke to consider a horse like Acclamation?

I don't have his record in front of me.... didn't he win 3 Grade 1's in a row this year as well as 2 G2s?

If this is west coast bias than why is Tizway, who i think had 2 wins this year and both in NY (out of how many starts? 4?), being talked about?

He did travel but he didn't win at Charlestown or at Gulfstream so if that is going to be argued it's pretty weak... no?

Again I am not saying Acclamation deserves it by any means... only pointing out that I think the debate is a little unfair (!).

Stay Thirsty is, as usual, being ignored and while he wasn't stellar this year none of them were really. I'm surprised no one is talking about him.

You have to realize there is zero consistency. I've asked a similar question for years. If Goldikova can be one of the three finalists, why can't she be number one? Either she's in or she's out but don't be in the middle. Arazi was also one of the three finalists in 1991 off of one 2yo race in the states. High Chaparral won his title in 2003 and that was off a dead-heat with Johar in the Turf. Singspiel won a title in 1996 even though he never won a race in the U.S. Many horses have won witb only one race yet if I suggest that Ghostzapper should have been champion in 2005 off one race, I'm crazy even though everyone would admit that he was better than St. Liam and his Met Mile was the best race.

There is no set criteria for winning either a divisional championship or HOY. As long as you run one time in North America, you qualify. They will answer our questions by saying St. Liam deserved it because he accomplished the most but Goldikova deserved hers cause she was the best. If you are gonna say it should be who accomplishes the most, Acclamation deserves strong consideration. If you're gonna say it should be who was best, let's give it to Uncle Mo, who got the year's top Beyer in the Kelso and who everyone wants to automatically bestow the crown of most talented horse in tbe country.