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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord
IMO, for one of our turf horses to be in the Hall of Fame -- they would need to be persumed good enough that if they went to Europe they could likely emerge as the best horse campaigning there.
I think that's mainly what people voting in the poll aren't getting -- turf accomplishments are viewed with much less importance than dirt accomplishments. Historical precedence... and it's not exactly like our top class turf horses have done anything in the last 15 years that should change that discrimination.
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That's exactly what my issue is. I don't know that he'd be in the absolute top tier in Europe and there've been other amazing turf horses worldwide, so what are we saying here? Comparing to other US turf horses is one thing. If you look at Goldikova, Frankel, Sea the Stars, Makybe Diva, Zarkava, Vodka ...is he in that breath and does he have to be? I know they're still leaning Mile, but I still wonder (like Haskin) whether the Classic might make a lot of sense for him. If you want to take a turfer onto a main track, I'd think this would be the place to do it, esp at the 1 1/4. I bet he could put in a terrific showing in the Mile, but you have to count on a Goldikova regression. For stallion value, for HOF status, and let's not forget for more money, there's an opportunity here for Gio Ponti in the BCC.