The restaurant/bar OTBs that I have been in, Il Fornetto and Hunter's in Brooklyn and Irish Circle in Queens, were all fine. Irish Circle was more of a drink beer and $2 bet crowd, but they had fun with it, so nothing wrong with that. The other two places seemed to have a much more serious and very regular crowd. Many of the parlors were nasty, but not all. Some were actually ok and had a neighborhood feel were locals were getting together to watch the races. Been in almost every one that was in Brooklyn, and a couple in Manhattan (those not so good...) so think I can make a fair call on them. There was a big one in Canarsie that I thought might be really bad that turned out to be the cleanest and friendliest of them all and another in Gravesend that one would think very neighborhood-ish, that was a complete dump, so there was little rhyme or reason to the good ones and bad ones.
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