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Originally Posted by King Glorious
U think Invasor is clearly better than every horse he faced last year. I don't. Invasor has won some nice races this year but he's beaten absolutely nothing at all. I think he's beaten even less than Bernardini and Discreet Cat have. It's going to take more than beating Wanderin Boy and We Can Seek and Andromeda's Hero for me to get on the Invasor wagon. I was trying my best to give him his due but then when he went out and barely could hold off Sun King, the only decent horse he's faced this year, I knew Invasor was a fraud. U say Sun King's got a reasonable chance to get a piece because of how well he ran against Invasor? I say neither one of them gets within sniffing distance of the first four at the wire.
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you've got Invasor pegged as a fraud??!! Wow! I think you've really underestimated him. Essentially I see him as the only realy threat to Bernardini. I think all of the other horses mentioned require several things to go their way in order to win. Invasor imo matches up fairly close to Bernardini on the figures I use. I've posted on this before. Much will depend on the shape of the race and how Bernardini handles it
Don't think you can point to one race, winning by a nose over Sun King, and conclude Invasor is a fraud. Keep this in mind about the Whitney before you draw too many conclusions, 1) It was far and away Sun Kings best performance of his life at 9F, and 2) Invasor stumbled at the start and it was basically right in line figurewise with his other starts, and 3) He seems to me to be better at longer distances.