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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
Timm, I'm aware of what precedents are, thank you. Under that logic, we should just lock up all the Arab Americans in internment camps because we did it to the Japanese. There's precedent, right?
I think what I am either explaining poorly or you are willfully misunderstanding is that Lincoln was WRONG to have suspended habeus corpus. The section of the Constitution that addresses it is the section outlining Congress's powers, not the President's. The President does not have the right as the Constitution is written; only Congress. And it seems to me the fact that Bush saw necessary to ramrod a law through Congress indicated Bush knew full well he didn't have the authority to do it on his own and needed his patsy Congress to pass a disgraceful law to give him authority to ignore the Constitution. And it's a sad day for this nation that people will say, "Well, Lincoln did it!" and think that should make it right. Lincoln didn't free the slaves in the United States; he freed the slaves in the Confederacy only, which, technically, did not consider itself the United States anymore. So that makes him a man who endorsed slavery in his own nation. Does that make him a bad President? No; he was a great one. Was it a bad decisions to endorse slavery in the loyal states? From a moral standpoint, of course it was.
And again, this happened 140 years ago...
So... what'd you have for breakfast?  I had cereal and milk. |
GR: Had to take my son to LAX for travel to England...Had JITB Breakfast sandwiches on the way back(YUM). I was hoping that you knew what a precedent was(I knew you did,but you were just being a lib). I don't know the circumstances of Lincolns' play, and I do know that it is Congress' baliwick. My understanding is that the law has restrictions and checks/balances included, so that your favourite cowboy can't run roughshod over AMERICANS. Not so with the foreign enemy combatants. Maybe when I'm more familiar with the law I can comment on it. I think the internment camps are our country's biggest shame(pretty much bar none). My only statement in Lincolns' defense is that the country had never been in civil war and he did what he thought he had to do. As with Bush,both were faced with situations never encountered before in the halls of Government. I'm tired now, so I'll talk to you later! Have a good one! Timm