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Originally Posted by Revolution
It still is a great country. I can't stand the President, but I can't stand the people that root against our country either. It is almost as disgusting as a president lying all the time.
I hate to say it, but your post has all the signs of a person that is a divider not a uniter. You people that choose sides disgust me. It is almost like you care more about your party than your country.
How anyone can be a registered democrat or republican is beyond me. People need to learn to think for themselves.
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Revolution, I didn't see anything in DTS's post that was ranting against the US-- it was ranting against the war in Iraq and our failure in Afghanistan and our failure in stopping drugs coming into the country-- how is that ranting against the USA itself? If people weren't willing to stand up and say, "This is for sh*t" we'd have no workplace protections, blacks and women and non-property owners wouldn't be voting and industrial corporations would still be legally dumping toxins into rivers (legally, anyway). Dissent is one of the most patriotic things a person can do-- to say, "I love my nation, but current policy is wrong." Blind acceptance of our government is dangerous and wrong. And I know you hardly blinding accept anything (and good for you!) but nothing DTS said was anti-American.
We have f*cked up in Iraq. Monumentally. The current administration has taken away habeus corpus, mortgaged our financial future, handed power to corporations and religious zealouts and is dictating morality as health policy. How is standing up and saying, "This is wrong" being UnAmerican? It seems to me that saying "This is for sh*t" is the most patriotic thing people who really love the ideals for which America is supposed to stand can do. Right now this nation is not an honorable beacon of freedom to the world; it's an overbearing bully that won't even bother to clean up its own messes. And I'm American enough to be ashamed about it.
Love your posts, though (and yours, Timm; even though we disagree politically a lot)-- I'm always happy with how civil discourse can stay here. Makes it fun to debate and discuss and I usually learn something new.
Thanks, guys.