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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Dunbar,
I have no problem with your numbers. But I don't simply bet to win all the time. Yes 5 DImes is a A book, but it isn't as rock solid as Pinnacle to me (this can be argued I understand) I bet Sunriver across in the Derby 500WPS. Now with 5 DImes, I get no rebate. With Pinny you get 60 bucks back. Better than nothing, no?
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Randall, I'd probably concede that Pinnacle is marginally more solid than 5Dimes. I don't know that for a fact, but they do handle humongous volume. But 5Dimes has earned its "A" rating with many years of fast payouts and good customer service.
If you make a lot of place and show bets, then you have to have an account at Pinnacle. I personally would still make the win bet at 5Dimes. On your Sunriver bet, you collected $20 back from Pinnacle, win or lose on your win bet. If Sunriver had won, you would have collected an extra $350 in your payout at 5Dimes. If you win your bet once every 17 times, you do better with the bonus. I expect you are winning your 6-1 bets much more frequently than once every 17 times!
Let's say you win your 6-1 bets just 12% of the time. (that's about the rate of a dart-thrower) Then you will average $42 extra (12%*350=$42) from 5Dimes compared to the $20 you got from Pinnacle on your win bet. So, any win bet you make at Pinnacle on a Belmont or Aqueduct horse is earning less than 1/2 the longrun bonus money it would earn at 5Dimes. That's a lot to be giving up.
I make very few place and show bets, but when I do, I will make them at Pinnacle. If I had to choose between giving up the rebates on my (few) place and show bets and giving up the bonus on my 5Dimes win bets, I'd keep the 5Dimes account.
But I agree that if you make a lot of place and show bets, AND you have to pick one book, then Pinnacle is your best book.
--Dunbar