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Originally Posted by wiphan
Do you not think public unions have any effect on the budget issues in the state now and in the future
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Yes, I do. However, I think that is a very small percentage of the budget. Too small to blame the unions for massive budget problems, and as a real reason for the union-busting. So what is that percentage?
Where is the financial proof that Walker's union-busting is based upon real financial numbers? He hasn't shown any yet.
What we "think" doesn't really matter. It's not a matter of opinion. What "is", does matter. This should be readily and easily proven by black and white numbers. Where are they?
Either have any of the other Republican governors, who were told by the Koch Brothers, owners of the Republican Governors Association and huge donators to getting these GOP Governors elected, that they must bust the unions before the 2012 election, in order to try and bust Democratic donors and votes. The other governors have done a complete 180 on their plans after the Walker fiasco regarding their union busting (see Indiana and New Jersey)
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Let's take a look at the auto industry in the US. Do you think the unions had any effect on the stability, sustainability and profitability of the US auto companies?
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Yes, I do. The auto industries bargained terrific benefits, then they made bad cars and terrible business decisions, so they could no longer afford to pay for what they promised the unions.
But the UAW union isn't the Wisconsin teachers, librarian, prison, fire and police unions.
So when we talk about Wisconsin, lets talk about the situation there, not somewhere else where the only thing in common is the word "union".