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Originally Posted by Riot
I'm sure alot of people disagree with your broad general assessment of politicians, and alot agree. If you don't like that people "believe" in the Democratic party, that's not my problem, that's yours. And that is separate from discussing the issues pro and con.
You don't accurately relay my "belief", however, by separating it starkly along party lines as you do. Yes, I actually do believe that some (yes, very few) politicians actually have their constituents interests at heart. Regardless of party.
You think I was supporting Bernie Sanders beliefs as he was talking for 8 1/2 hours on the Senate floor? No (he's an independent who calls himself a Socialist) but I was darn proud that a 69-year-old man stood up on the Senate floor for 8 1/2 hours and relayed his opinion in a factual, intelligent, educational way. Even if I didn't agree with most of it.
The GOP right now - I can't think of one politician in that party that puts constituents before Mitch McConnells political games, and unfortunately it looks like the Tea Baggers are already going right there with them. At least the ones in the Senate now are. Yes, I've watched the GOP change alot, and move far, far right over the past 10 years, and they are not the Grand Old Party of their past successes any more.
The Republicans are in reality (have turned into) the party of big, dictatorial government who want to legislate to death what people can and cannot do and even think - even regarding religion and their own bodies! They tolerate no dissent from their views. They have a religious view they want incorporated into our government. They have a clearly more aggressive, nasty and violent rhetoric. They are intolerant of differences in religion, skin color, social mores, etc. They clearly and repeatedly show they think they should not be subject to the laws of the poor common man, and that the richest and most elite of the country are who they serve. Think about that for a while.
Reagan wouldn't even recognize this GOP (and that's also according to Ron Reagan, Jr., he's writing a book about his father, placing his Presidency in context with the current incarnation of the GOP)
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your second and fourth paragraphs are pretty interesting imo. you accuse me in the second of going along stark party lines, which is laughable since i lump them all pretty much into one broad category-useless. i have no use, no liking, for either party. two sides of the same coin. are there a couple bright spots, bright moments? sure, and then the party puts them back in line. you then, in your fourth paragraph, engage in the very behavior you attempt to take me to task for. i don't like either party, trust neither, and feel both do everything in their power to take care of their party first, the country third, after themselves of course being second. hell, maybe the country is fourth, with their lobbyists and special interests coming third.
matter of fact, just the other day you agreed with me that the system was broken. of course you then only played blame one party for us being in the dire straits we're in. it's funny, once upon a time you most likely poured the same scorn on the dems that you now reserve for the reps. do you really feel that one is any better than the other? really?
i have faith in my fellow man, i have none in the two parties. i'm in agreement with folks such as geo. washington and james monroe on that score. obama, newt, pelosi, palin, are dim bulbs compared to the luminaries this country once had in power.