I took him out to see him...not a great colt......very unathletic front-end, but he had no 'holes' in him so to speak and his dad's reputation got him to $170,000....the breeder wanted more but I think he was lucky to get what he got....the Songandaprayer that sold for $160,000 that same day was a far better individual....he's the closest thing I've seen to his sire that his sire's produced to this point....nice colt..