[blackthroatedwind]

I agree Nick....with all sides.

The problem The Fat Man has here is sort of what he accuses others of doing, and we all do it, in that he hates Ice Box...so he's being a little stubborn. That's all fine, but the rub is how can he be so sure that this horse isn't improving, and might be a better horse ( a lot better ) than he was a few months ago. And, further, isn't it hard to argue that he rates to relish distance at least as much as any of these horses?

Surely someone like the Fat Man, with extensive backstretch experience, has seen horses improve as they grow up.