[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Scav

As I said in my response right afterwards, guarantee was the wrong word.

The guys that I have spoken about never claim out of NY or anywhere they are not located (Calabrese sometimes goes other places, but those are usually private purchases, not claims and he usually doesn't even know about them), but for as long as I can remember, the guys have claimed horses down at Gulfstream to specifically run at Arlington. Now, you will find that hard to believe because obviously targeting Arlington and its races and claiming horses from there probably doesn't make sense, but they do it year after year. They want to win races at Arlington, period. The fact that both of those Dutrows are available for 15k makes them attractive to these guys because these guys look for horses at that specific level.

I don't dispute that others have had the opportunity to take these horses for 25k and passed, but why is it so impossible that the people I am speaking about will not claim them when they have had little opportunity before?

You say Adagio won't be claimed. I think he is a lock to be claimed if he runs, and I wouldn't be shocked that a Chicago guy got him. What other trainers from all over North America target, or what, I have no idea.

I will say that the fact that Rivelli already got one off him weakens my argument, so I am probably relying on Calabrese's two trainers now.

Why not some type of wager? He will or wont be claimed.... I like it... Lets actually start a poll. If I knew how to, I would.