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Originally Posted by MaTH716
You like baseball analogies, here's one. Pletcher is like the Yankees (Brian Cashman). He's considered one of the best trainers in the game. He has all this high priced talent every year and unless he wins a couple of the huge races, then some people think he has been a dissapointment. There have been times when Pletcher has had 20% of the derby field and still hasn't hit the board. He probably deserves some of the grief he gets.
As far as Ramon goes, you see the list of horses he ridden. It seems like he's done very well with some not so live horses. He's coming into his own and you would think that he will soon be (if he's not already) considered in that top crop of jockeys that trainers fight for. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think he's on the verge of exploding. And the numbers you bring up are unfair and unjust and don't tell the real story.
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matt just 1 question that is out there that you have not answered
we know cashman is the gm but do you really believe he has final decision on all major moves in the organization - i don't (randy johnson et al)
now to my question that no one here has answered , do you think todd wanted to run every one of those starters in the derby? do you think he had a choice on each horse ?
i don't think he wanted to run certain horses in those big races , thus in my opinion i think it's unjust and unfair for people here to bash his record to the extent that they do because they don't know what the owners wanted to do