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Originally Posted by Kasept
The clever use of Bailey, McCarron and Day, three of the Top 15 (let's say) riders all time, presents a great benchmark for Ramon Dominguez. So.. because that's the 'standard' used, let's first note that Ramon will be 34 years old this year at the time of the TC and BC. So then, a look at Bailey, McCarron and Day through age 33 would logically be in order.
BC/TC WINS THROUGH AGE 33 -- TOTAL CAREER
DAY: 3 / 21
MCCARRON: 2 /14
DOMINGUEZ 1 / TBD
BAILEY: 0 / 21
Clearly, it's around this point in their careers, mid-30's, that top riders begin to supplant the veteran riders ahead of them for the best horses. Logic would tell you that the kind of horses it takes to win TC and BC races are just starting to come Dominguez' way now.
He already has the one Breeders' Cup win on Better Talk Now, so he's right in amongst the Hall of Famers in terms of timing.
You might think surprising placements on Friendly Island ('06 Sprint, 2nd 59-1), Bluegrass Cat ('06 Derby, 2nd at 30-1), My Cousin Matt ('04 Sprint, 3rd at 60-1) or even Gio Ponti ('09 Classic) might count for something too, but we're holding Dominguez to exacting standards so I suppose those efforts go to further demonstrate what an inept pilot he is...
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does this 2nd get an * because it was with a certain trainer ??
i picked three names off the top of my head . you could put cordero , arcaro , kent d whomever you like in there , steve he has not done it in the big spots on the big days eneough to be considered a great
he has time as you point out on his side , but people on this board are making him out to be one of the all time greats already .....let the kid prove it
winning 6 races at day at the big a on the best horse proves nothing when you could put an exercise rider on those same 6 and they would win 5 of those races ..... what 's the big deal , you're on the best horse most of the time your are supposed to win
This is NY steve , like it or not you gotta win when the whole world is watching , just ask A-Rod
Ramon still has time on his side , let's coronate him when he racks up the wins
No once cares about the how many Whitney's or Met Miles or Gotham's he wins expect diehard racing fans ......he's gotta win the big ones before he is coronated