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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
Well, you just did with much hilarity.
You're pretty much a fake. He's playing 23 minutes a game this year down 10 minutes this year. He has mental problems. They've been documented. When he plays 30-35 minutes a game he scores 11-12 points a game. Always has for whatever team he has played with. They have seemed to have played better with Delonte West on the roster than Larry Hughes whom he replaced in the rotation...yes you can go back and pull posts where I didn't like that trade when it was made but I was wrong.
He is what he is. He has been a better player for Cleveland than Larry Hughes. That's all I'm looking at. His performance on the floor isn't really the problem with him. I agree with you he is not a first ballot hall of famer.
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Sortable "Roland Ratings"
While we never advocate reliance on 'overall rating' type metrics for players since we believe that "fit" within a team's roster and coaching schemes, financial considerations and other factors play a considerable part in player evaluation, it can be
useful to gauge quickly how a player stacks up in certain statistical categories. The main components of the 'Roland Ratings' are a production measure (a variant of John Hollinger's PER rating) for a
player's own stats versus the counterpart player on the other team while he is on the court, as well as a simple on court/off court plus minus. This rating is actually more of a placeholder until the more sophisticated analysis we produce is made public,
but still offers a good fast read on player performance.
This is an advanced metric rating system which had West rated tied for the 34th most important player for his team in the league for last season. Tied with 2 pretty fair players, Paul Pierce and Amar'e Stoudemire. As it says above the rating system isnt perfect but Dala's idea that he is just an average NBA player or isnt important to Cleveland seems to not jive with the numbers. He was in the top 10% of the league and signifigantly higher than Trevor Ariza. As I said before the rating is not the end all of end all's but does show that West is a far better and far more valuable player than he is given credit for by someone we know. And the performance of Richard Hamilton and Joe Johnson in last years playoffs (they were in effect shutdown by West) also seems to elude her.
http://www.82games.com/0809/0809CLE5.HTM
http://www.82games.com/0809/BYPOSIT.HTM
Also note that the Cavs production by position SG (which was primarily West last season) was ranked 5th in the league in terms of production by position.