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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You are labeling a 21 year old guy based on a year playing with Roll the balls out Calipari and a year and a half of Vinny ball? Now he can pass but he doesn't have it in him to do it? And the topper Dwayne Wade doesnt have the range to open up the middle or free up the low post? Is that the same Dwayne Wade i see play? The guy who has a deadly 18 foot jumper in the foul line extended area? Really?
You want to "win" and unwinnable argument. The original point i made was that Chicago had a much better supporting cast than New York did and potentially more cap money if they could pull off a couple of farily logical trades. I never guaranteed a championship, I never said it was likely to happen. But I felt that it would be an interesting and dangerous team. Obviously I felt that Rose has greater potential to be more than a scoring point guard and would no doubt adjust his game to having one of the NBA's best players along side him in the backcourt. You feel differently. I felt that Bosh would mesh nicely playing alongside a strong rebounder and good defender like Noah and that Deng would do an adequate job as a long three man who would benefit from the defensive focus being elsewhere. I felt that Gibson has a lot of potential off the bench and that Salmons would give them a scorer with range who could give points off the bench. All of these assumptions are hardly wild. The biggest issue with that team (of course there are only 7 guys and Johnson is under contract so other pieces would have to be added) is defending a strong 2 guard as Deng isnt quick enough and you dont want Wade to chase a guy all over the court. That and Salmons potential to pout.
You want to tell me that I am an idiot because they currently shoot 68 times a game. Ok, nice discussion.
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For the record, you started the "idiot" stuff first but i forgive you.
An interesting and dangerous team? You don't throw those guys together to be "interesting and dangerous". You throw them together to win a title. I don't think that team wins a title of any kind but ive already stated my issues why. I actually don't think defense would be an issue. they might get pushed around some in the paint but that is a long, athletic team. I think defense is where the most adjustments can be made especially if guys buy in. Wade is a tremendous defensive player if not a lock down. Rose can be anything he wants to be. Deng is long and athletic as are Noah and Bosh. That team would certainly lead the league in blocked shots.
Slashers have to be paired with spot up shooters to open up the lanes. Potential spacing issues are so often forgotten when putting together a team. People always mix up chemistry for whether or not guys like each other. Its whether they can occupy the same parts of the floor, whether they need the ball to be effective, whether they can spot up.
Be nice and you can have the last word.