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You can say MSU beat themselves but ND had a say in that no? Didn't they force and recover a fumble and intercept two balls. Sure Stanton had to throw them, but didn't ND have to catch them. Beyond that, TO's do not give you points. The Irish still had to put the ball in the endzone. Both teams made mistakes, like most college teams do; but you can't blame the loss on MSU without giving ND at least partial credit. They took great advantage of the oppurtunties that presented themselves.
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