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Originally Posted by Danzig
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i have what i have because i worked for it. forgive me for believing that other people who want what i have can have it too. they can work for it just like i did and continue to do. i don't feel guilty because i think everyone who looks at what i've earned and wants it should work for it just like i did. no one has given me a thing. i've worked for it, it's mine. so, yeah, you're right. i don't want to give others my stuff. i want them to get it for themselves just like i did. how is that wrong? i didn't get a leg up, no free rides from anyone. why do others feel they should get what i've earned, without earning it?! my husband and i pay 187 every two weeks for health insurance. it was never a discussion of whether we could afford it, it was and is a necessity for us and our children. problem is, others such as some people who work for me, choose not to take out the health insurance available. but now i'm supposed to watch my costs and taxes skyrocket because a guy would rather buy chewing tobacco then pay for health insurance? he can't afford the one, but he can afford the other? and i'm supposed to feel bad if he gets the flu and doesn't go to the doctor, and whines that he hasn't got insurance? he chose not to get it. the employees portion where i work for his coverage is 10 bucks a week, but he chose not to get it! gimme a break. yeah, he's cheated out his rightful share. 
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All this only makes the point that this shouldn't be treated like some sort of option. It should be treated like crime protection, fire protection, and military protection. When this plan starts working, I do not expect you to be paying 5k a year for you n' your husband's yearly medical care. Wait n' see. You are going to be better off. Right now, I would guess that, even though you n' hubby are paying that much, you are still at risk of being dropped if you get a long-term illness. Maybe one of you needs a 100k surgery, and then they try to make you folks pay 10k/year. They can do this right now. You have quite a ways to go before you're covered by Medicare. This black guy you've been bad mouthing is gunna save you n' hubby a lot of money. You are red meat right now for insurance companies to savage(and they are doing exactly that.) Right now, some of these insurance companies are only using 50% of their money on patients care. The other half is on stuff like C.E.O pay etc. Under this plan, they are gunna have to spend 85% of the money on patient care. There is zero doubt in my mind that you n' hubby are going to be better off, but you wait n' tell me about it. Doesn't sound like what you've got is something to be thrilled about having. You really want to keep paying 5k a year? Try 12-15k if this doesn't pass, and you start having to use your insurance. What about if you both somehow lose your jobs, and don't have it offered by your new employer. That happens. People have to take jobs that don't offer any coverage. Under this plan, you'll keep your insurance(and pay whatever portion of the premiums your new income will support.)There are big consumer protections with this plan. You know this is not radical. I know it's sold that way on here, but civilized Democracies do this for a good reason (the alternative does not work.) You think it works, but I'm pretty sure there are circumstances (beyond your control) that would change your mind about this system.