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Old 09-22-2006, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SentToStudCalder is GREAT in December. Nine graded stakes, and another 8-10 of $100k+. A lot all the top East coast trainers are down already and the MSW and NX1 turf races are very good and bettable full-fields. On top of that the place is big and comfortable and not overpriced. Oh, yeah, the weather here in December ain't bad. My favorite racing month down here, by far.
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You say its headed in the right direction?
I have a few questions for you then.
1) Are the purses there not embarassingly small given the type of horses who winter there(like the ones YOU cited) and the fact that there is a huge horse population to draw from?
2) Are the weekday cards not an absolute disgrace containing nothing but cheap claimers and maiden claimers(as cited by trainers last year including Frankel when they went to management to complain about it)?
I also agree that I much rather go to Calder December over January Gulfstream. That being said you must see the double standard in your comments. You blast GP for points 1 and 2 above. These statements are consistent with the Calder in December as well (you will see many of the same horses running for lesser purses in December at Calder that you will see at GP in January). For Calder however your quote is "I agree completely. They do a hell of a job down there and put on some good shows. December is a great month there." I don't see you how you can have it both ways?
NIce try, but you aren't dealing with an idiot here.
Purses are based on handle primarily. Calder has to race from late April until January 2nd or 3rd every year, non stop. Are you really not bright enough to see that?
In 7 of those 8 months the cards are what they are, cards fitting of a track not offering major purses. The expenses they bear come from 8 staright months of racing and maintenance and employees. You don't raise purses for one month just because some bigger name trainers and horses are in town.
They have to structure those purses based on the whole 8 months.

Gulf is a completely different story. They race for not even 4 months and do a much larger handle. Which is what makes it even more sickening that their purses are about the same as Calder's.
You also miss teh point that Stud made. In December the track DOES give away more purse money. They take advantage of the increased horses and talent in town and write many MSW's and grass races and allowances.
Pity that Gulf doesn't do the same huh? Especially since noone at Calder is charging you 20 bucks to sit down at a carrel/desk to wtach races all day.
YOu wanna debate with me you are gonna have to a lot better than that!!!
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