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Originally Posted by freddymo
In my world its pretty simple, if the ruling body isnt specifically testing for a dangerous substance then clearly it can not be illegal. There are laws on the books that are valid, those are the ones enforced, you know tested for etc. You elect to avoid medication which you know will be beneficial to your stock because you have concerns that in 2037 there might be enforcement of a ridiculous law without teeth? More power to you if you can make folks money and earn a living being concerned about 2037 testing in 2010 congrats.
So let me get this right.. People use certain meds that the State Authorities have deemed illegal yet they did as such under the broad spectrum of "Anything Unnaturally Occuring", they failed to set guideline on use and allowable amounts(how could they they have no clue what it is they are talking about) and deemed ANY existence in ANY quanitity offensible eventhough guidelines haven't been established. I guess they figure they can set the guidelines after they figure out what indeed they are looking for. So you figure these people are cheaters because they are using meds that the state hasn't given any friggin structure on at all.. So you figure you will self police yourself and you will determine in Chucky's world what is Aspirin vs. Heroin. More importantly, your definitions as such will be the guidelines for whom you call smug cheaters and whom you call squeaky clean. Anything else you would like to share with us? How about an 11th commandment? Thou shall live by Chuck's self righteous self serving views.. . Again always root for you and your success just because I think your completely insane doesnt mean I dont wish you and yours the very best of success and luck.
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So are you saying that Biancone should not have gotten into trouble for using snake venom since they don't normally test for that?
The drugs you mentioned like gastrogard and adequan are totally legal. I don't think anyone would call a trainer a cheater for using legal drugs such as those.
I don't think Chuck is saying anything controversial. He is saying that using illegal drugs is cheating. He is saying that using legal drugs is not cheating. I think anyone would agree with that.
Let's take a doping drug like CERA. Using that drug is totally illegal. They don't test for it as of right now but it is still totally illegal. If a trainer got caught using CERA, he would be in huge trouble. Are you saying that you persoanlly don't consider CERA to be illegal since they don't test for it? If you have any question as to it's legality, you can call any racing board, stewards' office, or racing office and ask the question. I can assure you that they will tell you that the drug is totally illegal. It's not a grey area. It's black and white. It is 100% illegal to use that drug or similar drugs. The fact that they don't test for it as of right now does not change the fact that the drug is 100% illegal. If a trainer is caught with it in his barn, he would be in huge trouble.