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Originally Posted by CSC
That's nothing new my distaste of Rachel  , I doubt whatever I say will be considered objective when it comes to Rachel, Summer Bird and now Zenyatta. At this rate there will be no more horses to discuss...You are a sharp poster NTamm so this puzzles me how you could ignore the obvious, did you seriously think Regal Ransom was going to be a factor in the race as a win prospect? Did it occur to you that Rip Van Winkle may just not have liked the surface as per other Coolmore failures in Classics, these 2 were the only 2 pace threats and they just happen to be very unrelible to cite as a collasping pace because they could have gone 25 - 50 and still lost. Is it just possible the closers were better this time around...
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So basically you're saying the best field of the year had two complete bums that set the pace, neither of them having any chance? If I give you some more time can you elucidate how any of the remaining ten horses were useless as win prospects?
Your argument in this discussion has gone from saying that the pace was slow, to which I responded that it was not, to then saying it was slow again, to which I responded that it clearly was not, to now saying that it probably doesn't matter because the horses who set the pace had no chance. That's inexplicable.
Even the most mundane, elementary, and ordinary pace analysis regarding the Classic is going to make it clear that it collapsed. There were three horses in the top 5 at the 1/2 mile mark who were 11-1 or less and they finished 5th, 10th, and 11th respectively.
NT